Re: HYB:Rebloomers

Collen
here is the link to Candy Walk's picture i've put on iris-photo on 28 Dec 2006

http://www.hort.net/lists/highlight.cgi?bits=3&search=candy+walk&URL=iris-pho
tos/dec06/msg00218.html#marker

i guess we are blessed with so much humidity here that the iris thrive! (when
they don't rot...)
And even if the winters can hit hard, they don't seem to really mind.
The pots of seeds are actually turning into ice cubes every now and then , so
i guess the ones that will germinate in these conditions have been warned
they'd better get used to pretty tough conditions...
My problem wit the rebloomers from warmer countries is that they are caught by
the early frost.
In fact, they do rebloom well, but a bit too early for here!

We must shorten the time between the bloom and the rebloom, and they will be
perfect for the zones 6-7 !

Looc
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Impressive Irises
  To: iris@hort.net
  Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:02 PM
  Subject: RE: [iris] HYB:Rebloomers


  Hi Loic

  Would you believe that some of your "reliable" rebloomers , that I grow,
  have never rebloomed for me. Eg Vic Falls, Blue Suede Shoes.
  Breakers, Honey Glazed, Renown (which I threw away because it was so ugly)
  and Low Ho Silver do very occasionally. Forever Blue won't survive in out
  hot climate.
  Do you mean Candy Walk or Candy Rock? Candy Rock blooms extremely early for
  us but has never rebloomed other than the year I imported it when it was
  very confused.


  Colleen Modra
  Adelaide Hills
  South Australia

  www.impressiveirises.com.au




  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-iris@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of loic
  tasquier
  Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2008 5:35 AM
  To: iris@hort.net
  Subject: Re: [iris] HYB:Rebloomers

  Hello John,

  I have chosen to go for Rebloomers precisely for the reasons you are
giving!

  I was SO FURIOUS not to see the so-called rebloomers do anything and just
  fail
  me all the time that i have decided to beat them at their own game!

  With the help of the reliable ones, such as Low Ho Silver, Angel Heart,
  Forever Blue,  Midsummer's eve, Charabia, What Again, Immortality,
Starship,
  I'll be Back, I'm Back, Champagne encore, Hot, Frankincense, Cry Baby,
  Eternal
  Bliss, Buckweat, Violet Music, Elegant Lass, Rave Review, Altar Fire, Zia
  Ida,
  Lenora Pearl, Blessed Again, Concoction, Bonus, Candy walk, Honey Glazed,
  Autumn Tangerine, Baby Prince, Bright Eyes, Gypsy Boy, Derive, Best Bet,
  Blue
  Suede Shoes, Breakers, Pink Attraction, Earl of Essex, Renown, Victoria
  Falls,
  Banana Cream, Returning Chameleon, Dark Crystal, Cheeky, Over and Over,
  Skyking Returns............. i must stop now, but there are so many here!

  It will be long, but i'm sure something good will come out of it.
  Even if only ONE  of my seedlings makes it and reblooms in zone 3, i'll be
  Happy!

  My biggest issue will be the space, they need time to show their talents,
  and
  more time in the ground means less space for seedling.
  We'll see!


  By the way, it also makes me furious, when so-called rebloomers,( in fact
  they
  should be called "fall-bloomers" ), refuse to bloom in the spring....but
  this
  is another story....

  Looc


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: John Bruce
    To: iris@hort.net
    Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:34 PM
    Subject: Re: [iris] HYB:Rebloomers


    I can understand why the general gardening public wants reblooming
irises.
    Irises are beautiful, and the "ratty, boring" foliage one has to look at
  all
    summer and fall is easily justified with rebloom. Again, this is speaking
    for the general gardener. I live in an area where rebloom is sparse even
  in
    a good year for it when you do all the right things and the weather
    cooperates. I hear many local folks complain about "supposedly a
  rebloomer"
    or "never rebloomed for me".
    I wonder how many folks are turned away from non-performing irises
because
    they think it is just a marketing ploy or that it requires too much work
  to
    get rebloom? I agree that education about rebloom would counteract much
of
    this. It would also help if commercial sellers would not advertise
    everything that reblooms in sunny southern California as a rebloomer,
    because that is a unique climate.

    As a Zone 5 garden and seller of irises I can truthfully say I NEVER list
    anything as a rebloomer. Why? Because I owe it to my customer to deliver
    what is advertised. If I can't count on something to perform for me, I
can
    not make a promise to my customer that it will do so for them.

    I am not at all against rebloom. However, as a person who attempts to
    hybridize, I never focus on rebloom. Space is limited, I can't really
test
    for the trait in my seedlings, and so I make crosses with my preferences
  in
    form, vigor and color in mind. If a reblooming parent gets in there it is
    fine, but I never select a parent for that trait. I introduced BLACKMAIL
    last year. It has never even attempted to put up a rebloom stalk for me
in
    the 8 years that it was grown here, but a piece that was sent to
  California
    sent up a fall stalk. I still would never list it as a rbloomer.

    Betty W. lives about 3 hours or so due south of me, and frost hits there
    about 3 weeks after it does here. It does get cold where she is, but the
    length of season allows her to work with rebloom. Irises may indeed need
  to
    move in the direction of rebloom to remain relevant to more than just
    collectors, but keep in mind that there is still about 25% of the
  geography
    and population who live where a ***LOT*** of work will have to be done to
    make REbloom a relevant feature in irises :)

    No feathers ruffled, just a different perspective.
    John Bruce

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