Re: HYB: Rebloom
- Subject: Re: HYB: Rebloom
- From: L* M* <l*@lock-net.com>
- Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 08:08:06 -0500
- List-archive: <http://www.hort.net/lists/iris/> (Web Archive)
As Betty knows, I am working on combining her groups 1 & 2.
In the past, my group 1 has consisted of irises that would provide
pollen while growing in my garden ("corn rows"). What I thought I could
afford, plus years to sort out the survivors. Which meant that most of
my group 1's AND group 2's were <not> recent introductions.
Old pod parents X old pollen parents = old looking children
Now that I have more cash and have discovered the joy of keeping new
introductions alive in pots of Miracle Gro and bringing them indoors
during the worst weather, I've been able to improve pollen sources, but
am not abandoning the older tough reblooming (or reblooming blood line)
pod parents.
So now I have old pod parents X hot new pollen parents = medium aged
looking children.
The children that have bloomed so far (I only started potting most new
things two or three years ago) range in appearance from looking like
intros from the 1940s thru introductions from the 1980s. Possibly one
or two look like early 1990s style.
If I thought anybody would want them, I would definitely introduce the
80s or early 90s style looking ones, but my impression is that unless
it's an extraordinarily prolific bloomer (think Stella d'Oro version of
iris), it wouldn't sell.
So why go to the trouble of introducing if nobody would buy it?
And in my case, there is another consideration. I do <not> want my
<first> introduction to be a subject of public ridicule and scorn by
established hybridizers and gardeners who are growing prettier things in
a climate more hospitable to irises.
However, if I don't get somewhere soon with these infernal plants, my
aging body is going to put me out of business, so I have been toying
with the idea of introducing some of my kids that show some good
breeding potential at a lower price as breeders.
My group 2 irises are similar to yours, but not as many - IMMORTALITY,
TEA LEAVES, RENOWN, a couple of seedlings (one from TEA LEAVES x IMM
child, one an IMM grandchild from HoM), VIOLET MIRACLE, STARGATE (not
used yet). CHAMPAGNE ELEGANCE is a cycle rebloomer here (if it blooms
at all), but I did get some (wretched looking) seedlings from it one
year. Plus I'm still trying to use HARVEST OF MEMORIES, a cycle
rebloomer, but from summer bloomer breeding.
<Maybe we can approach this from a different angle? For the purpose of
discussion, I'll call these irises groups 1 & 2.
Group 1) Some of my favorite TB irises are Decedance, Enchanter, Man
About Town, Treasured, Lotus Land, Visiting Royalty, Born to Exceed,
Silverado etc.. Anything orange. ?(just examples) Substitute your own
favorites.
Group 2) Irises that summer bloom (July, August, Sept) for me are Total
Recall, Immortality, Feed Back, Cantina, Returning Chameleon, Renown,
Pure As Gold, All Revved Up, Summer Radiance & Pink Attraction. Others
that can summer bloom, but rarely do, are Violet Miracle, Vanishing Act,
Blazing Sunrise, & Champagne Elegance. (There are others) There are no
cycle rebloomers in this group.
Anyone working on combining the two groups?
Do I understand that no one is willing to introduce anything until they
achieve this ultimate goal of "modern/Decedance form" and rebloom??Which
zones??
Betty Wilkerson/Bridge In Time/KY/zone 6 . . . talking about it.? >
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