Re: HYB: questions
iris@hort.net
  • Subject: Re: HYB: questions
  • From: a*@aol.com
  • Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 08:31:00 -0500
<<Neil has now passed but he was very good at breaking complex genetics
principles and hypothesis down to something fairly understandable.>>



I'll second Christian's suggestion.  Neil was helpful to many of us and is
greatly missed.  He once told me that you don't have to know everything about
genetics (the alphabet soup?) to make good crosses.  Reading his posts in the
archives, would be a good investment of time.

Do you have specific goals?  Generally, like breed like.

Betty Wilkerson  . . . in pursuit of impossible dreams . . . one being two
orange irises that rebloom early and reliably in my zone 6 garden!


-----Original Message-----
From: christian foster <flatnflashy@yahoo.com>
To: iris@hort.net
Sent: Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:27 pm
Subject: Re: [iris] HYB: questions


Kathy,
The register is a very good resource.  If all you want to know is basic
ntroduction description, sometimes just posting to this list will get you what
ou want...  If you want to do involved pedigree research get the register, or
he paper version.
As far as the alphabet soup question, I'm guessing what you saw on the
daylilies
as some kind of genotype notation.  There are some very involved discussions
of
ost iris traits that can be found in the archives of this group.  Could do
with
 few more discussions of flat irises... but ah well.  Go to hort.net/lists to
ind those.
You could spend many a night reading and re-reading these posts and still not
lean the mountainous knowledge that they contain.  If you go browsing, just do
 search for "Niel Morgenstein" (someone correct me if I got the last name
rong).  Neil has now passed but he was very good at breaking complex genetics
rinciples and hypothesis down to something fairly understandable.
Which reminds me... As long as we're asking questions...
Someone somewhen posted that BC (that's Broken Color) was a recessive a
ecessive (plicata).  I'll accept at face value that that was a true statement,
ut can someone tell me how it's possible for a recessive to have a recessive?
hat's a little deeper into genetics than I've ever gone, me thinks.
Christian



_______________________________
rom: Kathy Palmer <irismilkduds@yahoo.com>
o: Iris Digest <iris@hort.net>
ent: Thu, February 4, 2010 1:13:22 PM
ubject: [iris] HYB: questions
Thanks, for the invitations to ask hybidizing questions.  I'm just at the
eginning stage where I don't know what I don't know, yet!  I've been trying
o decide the characteristics that interest me the most, but haven't really
een able to narrow the list down very much.  I'm definitely intersted in show
talks and characteristics.  I'm fascinated by the differences in beards.  I'm
artial to the amoenas and bitones, but like all the others also.  Well not
licatas as much.  (By the way how is amoena pronounced?)  I plan to start
ith TBs,MTBs and dwarfs, but randomly ordered about 9 pkgs of other seeds
rom Signa justs for practice and to see if I could get something else going
hat would work in arrangements.  So far I guess I do have two questions:  How
o I get more info about the genetics of the iris I have?  I don't have the
arents of all that I have.  Most are recent introductions since I am just
tarting the garden.  Where do I get
he alphabet soup to go with the characteristics?  (Aaa, BB, etc.)  I noticed
hat kind of information about daylilies a day or two ago on iris digest, but
t was too advanced for a beginner, so I mostly skipped over it.  I'm sure
hat info is available for Iris as well, I just don't know where to look for
t.  I've read "The World of Irises".  Now what?
hanks,
athy aka Iris Milkduds
.S. I was thrilled to hear that I could introduce from Signa seeds with
redit to Signa.  If I should be so lucky, I would have questions on the
etails of that later.
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