Re: OT: submissions policy, Re: AIS: Bulletin Content


From: "Julia Rankin" <breckenridge@bnis.net>

I agree that it would all be clearer to people if folks were always paid for
what they write.

I ,too, have published in the little poetry mags -- Poet and Critique for
one. there the scatter gun appraoch you mention might make sense -- so long
as one did not accept more than one acceptance for the same poem ( ha!ha!)

Would only like to add one thing: whether a piece is published again depends
upon what rights you sold.
It would also depend on whether the rights sold expire -- and when.

I wonder what rights an author relinquishes when he publishes in AIS and for
how long?




Julia
So. Calif.
SZ 1-3

Would like to add this
-----Original Message-----
From: James Brooks <hirundo@tricon.net>
To: iris-talk@onelist.com <iris-talk@onelist.com>
Date: Sunday, February 07, 1999 4:58 AM
Subject: [iris-talk] OT: submissions policy, Re: AIS: Bulletin Content


>From: James Brooks <hirundo@tricon.net>
>
>At 11:49 AM 2/6/99 -0800, you wrote:
>>From: John I Jones <jijones@ix.netcom.com>
>>
>>StorYlade@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>> If you are sending multiple submissions of the same article, tell all
>editors
>>> involved that you are sending the article to others.  AIS does not/did
not
>>> want to be embarrassed by having the same article come out in another
>>> publication simultaneously.
>>
>>
>>I am feeling kind of dense today, why would AIS feel embarrassed? They
>>certainly have a lot more to be more concerned about. Is there an AIS
policy
>>about submitting articles?
>>
>>John
>
>More to the point, any copyrighted publication is publishing original or
>exclusive material or material "reprinted by permission." One of the first
>things a writer learns about editors is that they will not read or accept
>material that is published elsewhere. If all writers were paid for their
>work (as we should be, after all), this concept would be crystal clear. The
>editor pays you for a story and he then reads it in a competitor's
magazine?
>The AIS Bulletin has to compete for advertisers just like a real pay for
>print magazine, so this policy should be readily understandable.
>Up until the 1960s, writers were taught to not even make multiple
>submissions to publications.
>When I was at the Iowa writers' workshop in the late 60s I shared a house
>with poet Frank Polite, who had not only published in Poetry magazine and
>all the little ones below that (no pay), but had also been in the big 3:
>New Yorker, Atlantic and Harper's. Frank's trick was very simple, thanks to
>new exciting technology called the Xerox machine - he sent his poems out to
>everyone at once. When I asked what would happen if two magazines accepted
>the same poem, he laughed and asked how many rejections vs. publications
>does one get? It had never happened to him. I followed suit and began
>sending sheafs of 10 poems or so to bursts of 20 magazines at once (4 cents
>postage then), and by the time I had my MFA my publication list in the
>little magazines helped me to get a college teaching job.
>Even so, once a piece is accepted you no longer circulate it. Both
>publication and author are protected by copyright by that time. Why muddy
>the waters?
>
>James Brooks
>Jonesborough, TN
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