Re: TB:Amoenas
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- Subject: Re: TB:Amoenas
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- Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 14:07:32 -0000
--- In iris-talk@egroups.com, "wmoores" <wmoores@w...> wrote:
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> On 19 Jan 01, at 1:47, Neil Mogensen wrote:
>
> > --- In iris-talk@egroups.com, storylade@a... wrote:
> > > In a message dated 1/18/2001 11:49:56 AM Central Standard Time,
> > > neilm@c... writes:
> > >
> > > << further complicated by calling
> > > white stds/yellow falls "amoenas" too. >>
> > >
> > > What would the proper term be?
> > >
> > > Betty / Bowling Green KY USA Zone 6
> > > Only those who dare to dream can make a dream come true.
> >
> > I dunno, maybe that's why we call them amoenas. Lack of anything
> > else to call them.
> >
> Relying on the history of the pattern in the literature and
work of Jean Stevens, who produced the
> first white/yellow (PINNACLE) and the first white/pink (SUNSET
> SNOWS), I read the terms yellow amoena and pink amoena. Using just
> the term amoena, one thinks of the white over blue/violet which
> became dominant with PROGENITOR and Paul Cook. These terms seem
> fairly established.
>
> Jeff Walters is right about the placing ot two specimen stalks in a
> show. They are not allowed with the exception of collections.
>
> Walter Moores
> Enid Lake, MS USA 7/8
Walt, your comment about PINNACLE reminds me. There was a fair amount
of static about Jean Stevens' PINNACLE being called a "yellow amoena"
at the time it hit the American market. Then, when Whole Cloth and
the other Progenitor derivitives were described as "amoenas" also
just plain dismay hit the purists who had spent years trying to
breed "true" amoenas of the Wabash type. The germination was so
notoriously difficult most who tried managed to bloom not more than a
few seedlings . Tell Muhlestein introduced Step Up rather late in
the life of the original amoena type. It produced seed that
germinated slightly easier, but still only a few, and I don't ever
remember seeing anything introduced from it. I think I had about
four seedlings that finally bloomed. They made good compost. What a
relief Whole Cloth was--easy to grow, easy to breed with and almost
everything was superb. The purists faded into the
background.....quietly. Now, with Blyth and Ghio's work, some
marvelous new things are emerging. Bay View Gardens' cover photo
of "Starring" shows it to have sharp contrast and some fine, fine
qualities. His introductory description uses the term "amoena" quite
happily.
Neil Mogensen
