Re: Med

Thanks for the answers.
Let me say that I know well enough what classes in the AIS modern garden
classification are but I try to understand if all of their names and
denotations satisfy me. As we can read in "The World of Irises", p. 131,
"Geddes Douglas suggested the term Border Irises for the short plants that
appeared among the seedlings of hybridizers working with the tall bearded
irises. Before this term was officially adopted these smaller talls had been
classed as intermediates....." I'd like to know what the AIS officially mean
under term "border". Cathy is absolutely right: "How about because they are
on the border of being tall beardeds!"
    In fact, I put my question since the name "border" for the iris class
doesn't satisfy me in any sense. Of course many Russian flower-lovers know
the word "bordure" but if you asked about border irises practically any of
those ones who knows nothing about iris classes, they would certainly answer
that borders, by their height, should be approximately like those we call
SDBs. Moreover if to compare all other classes of bearded irises with TB
one, we can probably also call all (or some at least) of them "BB". No? But
even if we think about this group as about situated "on the border of being
tall beardeds", how one can know about our meaning without special
indication on that score (say, Alike Tall Border Bearded)? Maybe better to
call them Standard Median Bearded or somehow else? I think, the name "BB"
itself doesn't give us exact information where to find the class "on the
scale" but it should do.

By the way, I consider MTB also unfortunate name since it's not tall but
median. (I think, say, MMB is more preferable).

At last, it seems to me,  there is one more important enough (in this
context) question  - what should we mean under term "medians" in our case?
Should it be something in the middle of the "bearded scale" (say, present
medians without SDBs) or concretely all classes between TBs and MDBs (what
we have now) or maybe only joint group of IBs (as intermedium between TBs
and SDBs) and SDBs (as intermedium between TBs and MDBs)? Why Standard DWARF
beardeds belong to MEDIANs? If suddenly it is because they are intermedia
between TBs and MDBs, then why we include BBs and MTBs into this group -
they are not intermedia (there shouldn't be two (or more) criterions at the
same time)? Or maybe SDBs simply should have another name - say, Undersized
Median Bearded?

Sergey Loktev

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