Re: Re: AIS: membership trends - more
- Subject: Re: [iris] Re: AIS: membership trends - more
- From: Robt R Pries r*@sbcglobal.net
- Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 19:40:45 -0800 (PST)
- List-archive: <http://www.hort.net/lists/iris/> (Web Archive)
Char; I do not think you understood my post about TBIS. I am sure that most of the people who are members are also members of AIS. I believe that most of those members would like to see both groups prosper. I think there were legitimate concerns that many people shared about AIS that were used by the TBIS officers to further their own agendas. But I do not believe from my personal observation that some of the TBIS officers had the best interest of AIS at heart, and really were out to create a competitive, not cooperative society. So far I have seen nothing that dispels this notion. Most individuals appreciative the wonderful Tall Talk which is subsidized by an individual. If AIS would have had that type of resource I am sure they could have done equally as well. Much of the problems were not addressed in a fashion that would have worked to improve AIS but more in a belligerent way that was meant to aggravate the relationship. I believe most people on both sides would like to see
these two groups working together for a common good. But it is my personal belief that some in control of TBIS do not wish that to happen. I do not know that much about details, I only know my own observations. Perhaps I am entirely off base. But I would ask then, what has prevented TBIS from being a section?. AIS has relaxed every rule there is about sections, such that there are practically no requirements except a desire to cooperate.
ChatOWhitehall@aol.com wrote:In a message dated 1/27/05 7:59:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,
randall83641@velocitus.net writes:
<< Mr. Pries, I question your comments about TBIS and Anner's comment that
"AIS
is not some pissant civic group meeting at the local Y and making up its own
rules as it goes along." I am not sure how helpful that attitude is toward
keeping or attracting AIS members. For me TBIS has been more garden friendly
and the publications great. >>
Anner speaking:
I did indeed say that "AIS is not some pissant civic group meeting at the
local Y and making up its rules as it goes along."
That statement is the plain truth. The word pissant, of course, simply means
*insignificant* It derives from pissmires, another word for ants, as in small
bugs.
I employed this metaphor--for that is what it was, a descriptive figure of
speech-- intending to emphasize by contrast that AIS is, as I said, a large
national corporation of a kind which is subject to intense scrutiny by the
Government, a corporation which must abide by rules which in this case provide that
the membership and financial statistics of the AIS cannnot be kept secret, as
had earlier been intimated. I stand by that point. Does someone want to argue
that they really should be secret?
I made no comment nor uttered any metaphor about TBIS and have no opinion.
Anner Whitehead
Richmond VA USA
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