Re: Re: COMP: hort.net
iris@hort.net
  • Subject: Re: Re: COMP: hort.net
  • From: &* P* &* <1*@rewrite.hort.net>
  • Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 15:50:50 -0500 (EST)
I stand corrected. I guess I just remember rejoining at the same time. It is a very good forum and I wish I had time to keep up with it. Maybe if we had something similar in AIS people would join just because they felt like they should, like I did. But then again would such a forum compete with Forums from the sections if they were to have members only forums?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Linda Mann" <101l@rewrite.hort.net>
To: iris@hort.net
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 7:05:02 AM
Subject: Re: [iris] Re: COMP: hort.net

Plus, like hort.net archives, you can use the site, read, search without 
joining.
Linda Mann
On 1/9/2016 6:15 PM, Tom Waters wrote:
> Bob, you are incorrect about the SRGC forum. You do have to join the
> *forum* (for free, it's really just picking a username and password), but
> you do not have to be a member of SRGC. It's not even asked about when you
> register with the forum.
>
>     Tom Waters
> Telperion Oasis ~ www.telp.com/irises
> Cuyamungue, New Mexico, USA (zone 6)
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------
>   From: "Robert Pries" <101p@rewrite.hort.net>
> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 10:01 AM
> To: iris@hort.net
> Subject: Re: [iris] Re: COMP: hort.net
>
> Tom: Thanks for the history and I agree with the challenges of setting up a
> group. I have been a member of SRGC off and on for over 50 years, longer
> then AIS but not as consistently. The last time I wanted to post on the
> forum I had to renew my membership first. So I think their forum is only
> visible to non-members but you must join to post. It has been over a year
> since I posted there and have forgotten. I agree it is harder and harder to
> keep up with many forums/facebooks. Years ago pre Facebook I used to be a
> member of about 25 specialty plant societies. I finally let most of them
> expire because I did not have the time to read all the journals. The same
> seems to happen just with Iris.
>
>
>
> Each Iris group to function well today really needs a forum but that is way
> too many. Perhaps what is needed is one Large Iris forum that was
> accessible to a member of any AIS member, or any Section member through a
> portal on each of those websites. Because it would be the bulletin board
> type people could check out their particular interest but still comment
> when they wished in other sections that are being more active. Perhaps it
> could follow the Scottish Rock Garden Club model of being visible to
> everyone but bring in new members because of a wish to participate like the
> SRGC does.
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------
>
>     From: "Tom Waters" <7a9370dc1@rewrite.hort.net>
> To: iris@hort.net, iris@hort.net
> Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 11:11:14 AM
> Subject: re: [iris] Re: COMP: hort.net
>    Just a little clarification on the history. I started the list (then
> IRIS-L) in February 1996. I set it up and moderated it for the first few
> years. I've noticed that in recent years people have talked about Mike Lowe
> being the founder or cofounder, and there's not really any basis for
> singling him out amongst the half dozen or so of us who were interested in
> starting it. He gave some money (there was a $200 bill to create it), but I
> believe Bill Smoot gave more and others contributed as well. Perhaps Mike
> publicized it to AIS or something.
>
>     As Linda has stated, it was not intended to be an AIS project, and I
> don't think it ever had any such status, although AIS did let members know
> it was one of several venues for iris activity on the internet.
>
>     Bob, I share your caution about recommending the AIS create a forum. If
> it does, I would encourage them to make it open to all, not just AIS
> members. A critical mass of participants is an absolute necessity, and the
> number of nonmembers (around the world) who want to talk about irises is
> orders of magnitude larger than the AIS membership. This model has worked
> for SRGC, and their forum has brought in new members.
>
>     Unfortunately, I don't really see another iris forum being able to draw
> people away from Facebook or even away from the SRGC forum and other
> broader plant forums. Most people only have time for one or two venues, and
> they will tend to go where they get the most interaction for time spent.
> One of the reasons that social networking sites like Facebook, Twitter, G+,
> etc., are popular is that you can keep in touch not only with people who
> share one hobby, but friends and family everywhere. And an all-plants forum
> like SRGC is rewarding if your gardening interests extend beyond irises.
>
>     For a venue to start from nothing and take off (like this list did, in
> the beginning) it basically has to be THE place to go, not just another
> place to go. Who has time for yet another place, especially if its reach is
> narrower than the sites one is already using?
>
>     Tom
>
>         Tom Waters
> Telperion Oasis ~ www.telp.com/irises
> Cuyamungue, New Mexico, USA (zone 6)
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------
>     From: "Linda Mann" <101l@rewrite.hort.net>
> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 5:36 AM
> To: iris@hort.net
> Subject: [iris] Re: COMP: hort.net
> Last time I checked with Chris, who does the computer stuff at Mallorn
> that takes care of hort.net, he said iris talk archives were still
> getting more than 10,000 search hits/month. Hardly a dead group. And
> that was in comparison/contrast to some of the other hort.net groups.
> Of course, some of that traffic is from those of us who've been sharing
> information there for over a decade and are using the archives as a
> memory aid for info we want to share on Facebook ;-)
>
> I vividly remember how I learned about the hort.net forum (originally
> iris-list) - it was 1996, & I had finally gotten internet phone service,
> went online, thought "now what am I going to do, now that I'm finally
> here". Did a search for irises, found a brand new forum started by Mike
> Lowe and Tom T Little (now Tom Waters) and joined. I think that was the
> second month they were in operation.
>
> On 1/8/2016 11:39 AM, Char Holte wrote:
>> Do any of you remember how you originally
>> got on the original web site? I think it was offered when we joined AIS.
>
> In spite of what some participants have thought, although the list at
> hort.net was started by two AIS members, it was not originally intended
> to be an official AIS forum.
>
> Is it now an official AIS forum?
>
>> Why would you want an AIS forum if you have the hort.net forum? I thought
> the Hort.net served the AIS community.
>
> Linda Mann
> east TN zone 7b
>
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> -- Bob Pries
> Zone 7a
> Roxboro, NC
> (336)597-8805
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