Re: Re: AIS: question convention plant

I  agree with Kitty on most points. I was somewhat involved with our
regional this year. Our club committed to do it and disbanded after the
guest iris were planted. Most active members helped with the meeting. John
Bruce of Hidden Acres Iris Gardens took over the guest chair. He tried to
contact all hybridizers for disposition. Most didn't want them shipped back.
If they knew how many fans we had they might have been more interested. TB
averaged 25 fans in one garden. Other gardens did not have that growth. One
MTB had 54 fans left after 18 bloom stalks.  IB's about 30 t0 35 fans.
Digging and destroying was still a job. Because of medical problems I was
not much help. John did three of the four gardens.

I think most of the hybridizers don't want the market flooded with new
intros at cheep prices. I know mistakes are made and I would have to wait
till the ones sent back bloomed before I would send any out.

We were dealing with a couple hundred cultivars not thousands like the
National.

Mike Greenfield
Zone 5b
SW Ohio
Region 6

I like the 2 or 3 years old rule.
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From: "Lobergs" <loberg@adelphia.net>

Subject: Re: [iris] Re: AIS: question convention plant


>     Linda, your thought isn't off base, it's right on target.  Hindsight
is
> very applicable here, I don't think a single person in our region had a
full
> vision of the monumental tasks waiting us to distribute the irises.
There
> surely is more than one method to dealing with the distribution of the
> irises, but with each idea, there are lots of factors affecting the
results.
> I have some observations, and they're just my opinions.
>
> 1.   I do not agree to having an open-ended policy to do whatever the
> hybridizer wants in returning irises.   There is a HUGE expense connected
> with this.   We made a mistake of encouraging so many guest iris, and I
> believe we should have set limits to the number of varieties accepted from
> each hybridizer.   Other conventions are doing this, they are wise.
Some,
> including our largest contributing hybridizer wants everything returned
> except 1 rhizome per variety... that is a huge shipping cost!
He/they/she
> get a tremendous amount of publicity, they send us 3 or 6 of a particular
> variety, and they get a return of perhaps 20 or more rhizomes.   In a
> business sense, that's a dandy production return on the initial
investment,
> and not having to share or bear any growing cost or return postage costs
of
> the clump after 2 years of growth.
>      I can understand that perhaps the newest introductions... 1, 2 or
> perhaps 3 years old, should or could be returned by request, but returning
> the 4, 5, 6 year irises, which have the largest quantities, is an expense
a
> region should NOT have to bear.   I'm really strong in my opinion on this.
> There are many hybridizers who understand the work the guest gardens do
and
> the region does to host a convention, and many hybridizers were so
generous
> to allow most of their rhizomes to STAY within the region.   I just
believe
> the other hybridizers/commercial gardens should realize the burden they
> place on the hosting group when they say they want all of their rhizomes
> back.    I think the alternative would be to state that any rhizomes older
> than 2 or 3 years, if requested to be returned, have the return postage
paid
> for by the hybridizer.   This would encourage the hybridizer to think
twice
> about the burden of the postage cost and hours of labor... any maybe they
> would instead say, destroy those rhizomes, if they don't want them going
> anywhere.
>
> 2.   I'm sure we've lost track of the hours put in by volunteers from
> societies all over our region working with our irises.   We've chosen to
> make our irises available to our societies and team with them so that
> membership throughout our region derives a benefit.  If a more standard
and
> concise policy pertaining to just the newest varieties were followed,
hours
> upon hours of volunteer time could be saved; hours saved for the gardens
> with a simpler set of digging instructions, hours and costs saved in
> transporting truckloads of irises, hours saved in trimming and labeling
> older varieties which aren't of the highest interest to buyers, hours
saved
> in sorting and handling irises multiple times.
>
> Kitty Loberg
> Volunteer spending many days with committee to sort/label/trim
>    convention iris 4 hours from my home.
> 2004 Convention Treasurer
> Reg14 Past RVP
> Reg14 Treasurer and Webmaster
> AIS, TBIS, SIS, SJI
>
>
> > Thanks all - a <lot> of work for sure.  A wonder there isn't a rule that
> > all plants are to be destroyed after convention.
> >
> > --
> > Linda Mann east Tennessee USA zone 7/8
> > East Tennessee Iris Society <http://www.korrnet.org/etis>
>
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