Re: OT: Iris - archives found by Google

Gesine,?

So nice that you are finally finding your way around the internet. Better late than never!?

I think, that, like those of us who have been computer literate for?years, you will find?the web?to be an important?and exciting resource. Google does?link to?a good deal of useful material, don't they, I mean, when they are not trying to run roughshod over people's legal rights? Of course, it's still really a matter of?knowing what to?make of?the information?you find, isn't it? I call?Google the dilletante's best friend. 

And it's?good that you have such knowledgeable human resources! That must be a great comfort to you. I have knowledgeable friends, too, in fact I live with a computer security expert. I've learned all sorts of interesting?things from him over the years.

I'm going to bustle off now and?check into?changing my email addresses,?because, when you start receiving unsolicited crap about irises in from?folks you've never heard of?on a master?email address that has not been used publicly for well over a decade,?you?actually don't have to put up with it.
?
You take care, now. Always remember to keep your?virus protection up to date, and watch out for those unexpected porn sites!?

Anner Whitehead

-----Original Message-----
From: Gesine Lohr <gesine.lohr@gmail.com>
To: iris@hort.net; Gesine <gesine.lohr.@gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:28 am
Subject: [iris] OT: Iris - archives found by Google



Hi Anner and all,

I really doubt that there's any connection between the
archives showing advertising, and Google's having
found the archives.

One of my best friends works at a very high level in
computer security/encryption/etc. (he & partner were
doing computer security for a European government).
He says -- if you put it on the internet, it's findable.  Period.

Google has been finding more and more things ongoingly,
which one could also see as a good thing (e.g. people
looking for information on iris can find more of it).

What worries you about this?  I wasn't on the internet
until late 2000, but I can find old cat-rescue-training things
I wrote then, 9 years ago -- and sure I'd write them better
now, but I think people do tend to notice dates of things.

And if it's "higher internet profile" that worries you, it's
kind of too late (start of bad science fiction movie here) --
email addresses have been pretty easy to find, if people
really want to find them -- and posting on groups is very
findable.

Gesine

ps another side of Google -- they've got scans of a lot of
old iris stuff now! in Google documents

*********************
So, I guess it must just be coincidental that this  hit-inducing change---
and the resulting higher internet profile for all  posters, past and
present--- comes to one's attention around the time the  Archives start
showing a
lot of advertising.

Silly old me to wonder about such things.

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> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:27:20 EDT
> From: ChatOWhitehall@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [iris] OT: Archives linked to Google?
>
> In a message dated 6/30/2009 12:01:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> jijones@usjoneses.com writes:
>
> Official  response from John:
>
> We did nothing specifically to link our archives to  Google. Google
> just found us with their web crawler. The iris-talk  archives have
> always been open to the public.
>
> I don't know  that there is anything we could do to keep any
> webcrawler out, nor  am I sure that we would want to. At the moment I

> really don't have  an opinion on the issue regardless of whether we
> could do anything  about it or not..
>
> -------------------------------------------------
>
> So, I guess it must just be coincidental that this  hit-inducing change---
> and the resulting higher internet profile for all  posters, past and
> present--- comes to one's attention around the time the  Archives start
> showing a
> lot of advertising.
>
> Silly old me to wonder about such things.
>
> Thanks for the official explanation, John.
>
> Cordially,
>
> Anner Whitehead
> Richmond VA USA

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