Re: RE: Red-toned rebloomers (was RE: First 08 rebloomers)
- Subject: Re: RE: Red-toned rebloomers (was RE: First 08 rebloomers)
- From: A* H* <j*@labdude.com>
- Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:41:14 +0930
- List-archive: <http://www.hort.net/lists/iris/> (Web Archive)
Hi Robin,
I am curious - wouldn't Popstar be a big help?
I have used both Popstar and Wearing Rubies heavily in crosses, but
am yet to see the results bloom.
Since reliable red rebloomers are a field in which progress has been
so slow, I am trying to approach the issue from a number of different
angles. It is frustrating that some of the genetic material I would
like to use isn't available here in Australia - Lest We Forget is a
prime example of that, as not only is it unlikely to be available
here any time soon (given spiralling quarantine costs), but neither
of its parents (Witch of Endor and Mulberry Echo) are available here either.
I am really hoping that Popstar and Wearing Rubies will help make up
for the unavailability of a lot of the US-bred rebloomers, but will
just have to wait and see. Certainly their form should be a big
help, but I consider reliability of rebloom (particularly in colder
climates than mine) a major goal too.
I have one red and one more orchid seedling from Popstar x
Renown. Only four from the cross have bloomed and the other 2 were
yellow though one had a anthocyanin wash.
Interesting to hear. My Popstar x Renown cross didn't set a pod, but
I did get seeds from the reciprocal cross.
Also I used Sheeba's Queen a few years ago with various things
and got a lot of reds, and by the second generation I was actually
surprised that Sheeba's Queen was so close in there as the form
improved greatly over 1 generation.
Sheba's Queen is another one not available here, but yes, I have seen
that kind of improvement with some older irises, too.
Definitely an avenue worth trying when the iris in question has some
of the traits you are looking for.
I do hope that you can get a cross with Rosalie Figge x Golden
Immortal. RF has never produced red seedlings, but certainly the
red side of Violet. I do think that the common thread that RF,
Matrix ans Renown get the red from is Violet Miracle, I got red
beards first generation from some VM crosses.
Violet Miracle is a name I have noticed comes up quite frequently
when looking up the parentage of rebloomers I am interested
in. Doing a check of Violet Miracle in irisregister, some of its
other seedlings include Cantina, Constant Companion and Winesap,
which definitely confirms your theory, and adds weight to the idea
that Rosalie Figge x Golden Immortal could give reds.
Good luck to you- there is much that can be done in the way of
red rebloomers!
Thank you - I agree with you there.
Ann
South Australia
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