Re: HYB:CULT

Griff, are you saying that you don't think the stress can cause genetically inferior plants? 


<<I think the seeds will either develop and produce healthy plants,
or they won't germinate.>>

Betty


-----Original Message-----
From: John Gwilliam <jkg2@cox.net>
To: iris@hort.net; iris@hort.net
Sent: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 7:20 pm
Subject: Re: [iris] HYB:CULT



Griff and List,
I came home (Tempe, Arizona - Zone 9) after three days out of town to
113.8F / 5% RH and a new stalk coming up on Count The Kisses (Blyth
1999).  This stalk is an amazing 3/4" thick and just 12" tall.  Our
season pretty much ends the 3rd week in April so this is a very
unexpected surprise ( as was I 56 years ago).

Best,
 John Gwilliam
At 04:36 PM 6/18/2008, J. Griffin Crump wrote:
Betty -- I think the seeds will either develop and produce healthy 
plants,
or they won't germinate. I think many of us have seedlings that 
germinated

from seeds salvaged in a seemingly unripe condition because of pod rot,
accidental early break-off or whatever.
I have a TB seedling that bloomed for the first time five days ago. 
What I

feared did, in fact, happen.  The falls were literally cooked by the
near-100 degree temperatures here while the bud was preparing to open.
Also, the branching is bunched -- not something for which one can 
blame
the temperature, but hopefully not a permanent feature of the 
seedling.  A

sibling is developing a few days behind it and may miss the extreme
temperatures. Its bud count is low. The cross is Wearing Rubies x 
01J14, a

very nice but slow-to-grow seedling involving Champagne Elegance, Lady
Friend and Romantic Evening, so I'm hoping that the five other 
siblings will
bloom next year and be better. I'm also surprised to see maiden bloom 
on
these two siblings at this time of year -- more than a month after 
peak

bloom here.  I'm attaching a photo from the top down, just to show the
colors (and all five style arms!).  If our cooled-down weather holds,
perhaps one of the still-to-open buds will be worth picturing. -- 
Griff



----- Original Message -----
From: <autmirislvr@aol.com>
To: <iris@hort.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 4:25 PM
Subject: [iris] HYB:CULT
> Several times in the past, we've discussed the health of the pod 
parent as

> it relates to the seedlings.
>
> Many of us have had several months of conditions not favorable to 
irises.

> Freeze, drought, freeze, freeze, heat.
>
> These plants have been stressed big time.
>
> Can we expect decent seedlings from the pods we have  (assuming the
> parents are good,) or will their poor conditions doom these babies 
to poor

> genes?
>
> Will the good genes kick in even if the conditions were poor?
>
> Betty W.
> Bridge In Time Irises
> KY
> Zone 6
>
> 
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Zone 9

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