RE: HIST: Dr. Bernice

Glad to hear that Presby was not the only source of Dr Bernice, although
today, I don't know of anyone growing it which did not come from the Presby
collection that I distributed. I was not 'into' iris back in 1995, but
fortunately Phil recognized it and knew if from a few years ago, which should
be additional proof that it is correct.
Yes, Phil has 'vetted' all the pictures on the HIPS site, although there are
quite a few pictures up there and there may be a few questionable ones. DB was
vetted long before the website went up, as I was sending him photos from
Presby to ascertain their 'given' names.
Lauries picture of Dr Bernice on the HIPS website is the same one that I have
been passing around, although her picture really makes it look quite good.
Since you mentioned, Andromede might have a problem; looks alot like Lent
Williamson to me, which was growing rampant in the Presby bed that Andromede
came from (it  eventually landed in Mike Unser's hands, so I can see where
that one may be questionable). It may be a similar looking iris; That was a
very bad year for Presby. There is nothing left of Andromede at Presby today.
Laetitia

> From: ChatOWhitehall@aol.com
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 19:03:26 -0400
> Subject: Re: [iris] HIST: Dr. Bernice
> To: iris@hort.net
>
> In a message dated 6/1/2009 6:21:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> lmmunro@hotmail.com writes:
>
> I  perhaps may be the 'culprit' for releasing this cultivar into the
> general  iris community. I discovered it at Presby in 2001 or so, never
> having
> seen  a picture of it or description from any historic iris fancier  and
> distributed it to other iris collectors, some of whom have grown it for
> sale
> or trade.
> Well, don't fall on your sword yet, Laetitia. 'Dr. Bernice' was  already in
> circulation well before that, apparently. It appears on the  1995 HIPS
> Databank listing, and on the previous edition of the listing as well.  On
> neither was it reported as being grown by only one person. Which means,
people in
> HIPS were growing it within recent memory.
>
> <<I have submitted the picture to Phil Edinger who had vetted  it around
> 2002. I
> don't know if I can attach a photo here but if not, please  write to me
> personally at Lmmunro@hotmail.com and I have plenty of pictures  of it to
> share
> (to make sure we are talking about the same  thing)
>
> Laurie Frazer's photo on the HIPS page is the one which occasions the
> question. Is that the same iris you have been passing around? Mrs.  Hess
lists
> it in her catalog, and I assumed that was the  source, albeit it possibly at
> some remove, of the iris in the picture.  It sounds like I need to ask Mrs.
> Hess about the provenance of her clone.
>
> <<Now...on to your second question, description of the growing  habits and
> flower. I would say it is a shortish growing iris, perhaps along  the lines
> of
> MTB height (in NJ maybe 20" if its happy, >>
>
> Thank you very much. The Cornell 112 only grants it 74 points, and says
> nothing about stature.
>
> <<Is it worth bothering to give it some of your garden space? Only  you can
> decide if its worth it.
>
> A truer word was never spoken.
>
> Thank you for your response. I appreciate it.
>
> Cordially,
>
> Anner Whitehead
> Richmond VA USA
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