Re: Re:Re: HYB: pod ripening/germination

   How do you know when a green pod is ripe enough to be viable?


David
--- On Wed, 6/17/09, christian foster <flatnflashy@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From:
christian foster <flatnflashy@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [iris] Re:Re: HYB: pod
ripening/germination
> To: iris@hort.net
> Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009,
4:06 PM
> David,
> 
> I'm basically lazy.  I harvest my pods green, because
>
I want them when
> I want them not when they're "ready".  I don't dry
> them
out, because then I
> would have to go all the trouble to soak them before
they
> would germinate.
> The trouble with the seeds is, they didn't read the
> book.  If the book says
> soak for seven days then that cross will want ten
days of
> soaking.  If the
> book says they will germinate after two months of
cold,
> then that cross will
> want four months of cold.  That basically means
that
> if you try to manage your
> seeds so that they will germinate at just
such and such a
> time then they won't
> cooperate with the plan.
> 
> I
harvest green pods, put them in burritoes (with
> 8cc of water) and put them
in the fridge.  I thought
> that just leaving them at
> crisper drawer temps
until they germinated was the
> ticket.  Unfortunately, it
> now appears that
my data was suspect, apparently the fridge
> was broken and
> occasionally
warming.
> 
> Christian
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From:
> greenthumbs <greenthumbs777@yahoo.com>
> To: iris@hort.net
> Sent:
Wednesday, June
> 17, 2009 7:45:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [iris] Re:Re: HYB: pod
ripening/germination
>   Do you allow the seeds to fully dry after harvesting
> the pod and store them
> away until a desired planting time or sow them
>
immediately?
> 
>   I have a
> fridge
> in my barn too, but during the winter
it freezes in it
> unless there is
> a light
> kept on in it. Seeds would
probably be better off in my
> house fridge.
> David
> --- On Tue, 6/16/09,
irischapman@aim.com
> <irischapman@aim.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > From:
>
irischapman@aim.com
> <irischapman@aim.com>
> > Subject: [iris] Re:Re: HYB:
pod
> ripening/germination
> >
> To: iris@hort.net
> > Date: Tuesday, June 16,
2009, 11:09
> PM
> > I have 'hatched"
> seeds many times in
> > a fridge over
summer. Normal
> fridge temperature. These
> are
> > planted flats of seeds
that didn't germinate
> over winter.
> > Inevitably
> the seeds are
germinating after  three
> > months at
> this temperature, as long
> as they
didn't dry out.
> > They start to germinate in
> fridge.
> > 
> > Great
>
germination this past winter in cold room in
> > garage.  I
> had a small
space
> heater on low to kkep them
> > from freezing. the ones that
> dried
out didn't
> germinate well
> > and are now in barn fidge.
> > 
> > Worst
>
germination ever was
> when I had seeds in cold
> > greenhouse. The high
>
temperatures resulted in very
> low
> > levels of germination.
> > 
> > Chuck
Chapman
> > 
> > 
> > Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009
> 17:08:40 -0400
> > From: Linda
Mann
> <lmann@lock-net.com>
> > Subject: [iris] Re:
> HYB: pod
ripening/germination
> > 
> >
> Too hot or too cold at the wrong time are
>
bad, but I don't
> > have
> >
> temperature data.
> > 
> > Too cold is maybe
below 25oF?
> just as seeds are about
> to
> > sprout; too hot
> > - - don't
know, but I worry
> above 70oF - if they do
> sprout,
> > they are more
> >
likely to damp off or
> fizzle.
> > 
> > After having
> burrito bags
occasionally freeze in the
> > fridge,
> I've set it
> > higher to make
> sure
it always stays above freezing. 
> > Seems to
> be better
> > germ that way.
> After planting, try to keep seeds
> > below 60oF,
> preferably
> > in the
40s at
> night, no higher than 70 during the day.
> > 
> > Maybe
> others will
comment - I
> haven't checked the archives,
> > but seems
> > like
> Vickie
Craig  posted
> something about germination
> > temperatures for SDBs?
> > 
>
>
> There's some
> combination of warmth and drying conditions
> > that stops?
> > slows
> down?
> germination in spring - used to think it was
> > just
warmth,
> > but this
> spring,
> all the rain, or maybe the genetic mix (Oz
>
> & CA genes)
> > kept things
> sprouting later/warmer than usual.  Or
> >
maybe the maximum was
> > lower.  Don't
> know.
> > 
> > Some seeds germinate
at refrig temps - 40oF? 
> Mary Lou
> > has seeds
> in the
> > fridge
germinating after 2 yrs there (I think)!
> > 
> > <What
> temperatures have
you found to be good or bad?
> > David>
> > 
> > Not much good
> information -
hope that helps.
> > 
> > Linda Mann
> > TN
> > 
> > -
> > 
> >
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