Re: HYB: Black Forest/aphylla
- Subject: Re: HYB: Black Forest/aphylla
- From: n*@charter.net
- Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 23:31:02 -0000
--- In iris-talk@y..., GardnrJan1@a... wrote:
"...there must be a few WITHOUT [Black Forest]...in their ancestry...
what about EDENITE[?]"
The problems do not depend on not Black Forest ancestry alone. The
problems come from I. aphylla. Black Forest has been pointed to
because it typifies the kind of behavior--bloom out, temperature and
drought responses, etc.--that resemble some if not most clones of
species aphyllas.
Edenite still stems from aphylla. Key breeders among Paul Cook's and
Gordon Plough's blacks included Dark Boatman, Indiana Night and
Sable, all including aphylla in their ancestry. Dark Boatman is even
from Black Forest crossed with a second generation seedling from
crosses involving Modoc, Black Wings and Sable. Edenite is from a
Thompkins red crossed with Sable Night which includes both Indiana
Night and Sable in its pedigree, along with other Cook crosses.
Plough's SWAHILI is from Edenite x Allegiance and does display the
problem behavior in some areas. I don't believe there is a dark out
there that does not have aphylla in its ancestry. That's apparently
WHY they are dark. It seems that is where the genetics for dark
color comes from.
The solution would seem to be to keep breeding for darks and select
those with the least problem where possible. Eventually the linkage
between problem behavior and dark color might separate. We're
already part way there.
Neil Mogensen western NC zone 7a
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