RE: AIS:Judges' Duties
- Subject: RE: [iris-talk] AIS:Judges' Duties
- From: D* B*
- Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 19:39:52 -0600
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Walta'
Once again we agree. I do not want to have to choose between Garden and
Exhibition. I want to do both and furthermore I do both now. Given the
difficulty finding judges for this years show I think splitting the judges
would make it next to impossible.
Maybe they should add a requirement to visit gardens and have that
documented somehow. We are required to attend schooling, and in Region 17 a
judge is required to exhibit in a show, why not a requirement to visit
gardens?
Dana Brown
Malevil Iris Gardens
Pres. South Plains Iris Society
Region 17, Judges Training Chairperson
AIS, MIS, ASI, RIS, TBIS
Lubbock, TX 79403
Zone 7 USDA, Zone 10 Sunset
d*@llano.net
-----Original Message-----
From: wmoores [w*@watervalley.net]
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 3:39 PM
To: iris-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [iris-talk] AIS:Judges' Duties
On 23 Mar 2002 at 7:39, Kitty & Bruce Loberg wrote:
> From my perspective I can't say that I know or experience
> "politics" or "insider control" regarding the AIS awards system. I'm an
AIS judge,
> I get a ballot in the mail just like all other judges. I'm allowed
> to vote, in my home, in private, at the time I choose, and mail it
> back in. I've never had anyone try to influence me. I believe they
> tally the votes as accurately as they can, and so the winners are
> based on vote count.
The same here, Kitty. As things are now and until the voting becomes
tallied by machines, I think we are doing the best we can with what we have.
There are efforts afoot to modernize, streamline, and refine the system as
soon
as possible as the budget allows, and I am sure we all look forward to that
day.
But sometimes it does appear that the highest
> votes seem to come after an iris is seen growing beautifully in a
> National convention garden...
Also true. With 206 named TBs on the AM Ballot and 741 named TBs on the
HM
Ballot plus all of the other classses, bearded and non-bearded, it goes
without
saying that no judge can grow them all. You are going to miss seeing a few!
Thank
goodness for conventions, and if we judges see them at two conventions or at
conventions and back home, and they are worthy, then the worthy ones should
be
rewarded with our votes.
The hybridizer has a responsibility, too, which is often overlooked in
discussing
awards. If he doesn't send his creations to conventions, then the judges
shouldn't
be griped at because they didn't vote such and such an award. And, not all
irises
grow equally in all climates, and I cannot be held accountable for not
voting for an
iris that just isn't adaptable to my climate.
When I first read in the AIS Board Minutes about two years ago that there
was a
proposal to split the judges into show and garden as they used to be long
ago, I was
shocked. I became a judge as the old dual system was being phased out. I
wanted
to vote the AIS Ballot, so I was told to select the garden category for my
judge's
training , but the dual system was phased out before I finished. The dual
judgships
system failed miserably in the past, so why would anyone want to resurrect
this
dinosaur? There are simply not enough AIS judges to have the judges divided
into
garden and exhibition. If we had several thousand judges, the dual system
might
work, but until then, forget it. I disagree with the people who say judges
cannot be
experts at both exhibition and garden judging. No reason was given for
defeating
the motion to return to the past, but I, for one, am glad it was defeated.
Walter Moores
Oakland, MS USA 7/8
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