Re: iris DIGEST V1 #19
- Subject: Re: [iris] iris DIGEST V1 #19
- From: "Jean Sturtevant" j*@cableone.net
- Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:52:01 -0600
- List-archive: <http://www.hort.net/lists/iris/> (Web Archive)
I always go to the manufacturer's website. They have very complete
information on this product. I can't remember the details from season to
season and year to year.
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From: "iris DIGEST" <iris-owner@hort.net>
To: <iris-digest@hort.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 11:45 AM
Subject: [iris] iris DIGEST V1 #19
>
> iris DIGEST Wednesday, March 12 2003 Volume 01 : Number
019
>
>
>
> In this issue:
>
> Re: [iris] TB:Hort
> [iris] TB:CAT?: knock me over with a feather
> Re: [iris] TB:CAT?: knock me over with a feather
> RE: [iris] TB 10-10-10 fertilizer
> [iris] PHOTO - Watercolor Paintings
> [iris] TB: possible flatty, and other odditys
> [iris] SPEC: Now Blooming.
> Re: [iris] TB: possible flatty, and other odditys
> Re: [iris] TB: possible flatty, and other odditys
> Re: [iris] TB:CAT?: knock me over with a feather
> RE: [iris] TB:CAT?: knock me over with a feather
> Re: [iris] TB 10-10-10 fertilizer
> [iris] Re: CULT: fertilizer
> [iris] OT-CHAT: Neil Mogensen?
> Re: [iris] OT-CHAT: Neil Mogensen?
> [iris] Re: OT-CHAT: Neil Mogensen?
> [iris] Re: HYB: seed germination
> Re: [iris] PHOTO - Watercolor Paintings
> Re: [iris] PHOTO - Watercolor Paintings
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 19:20:51 EST
> From: BigAlligator@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [iris] TB:Hort
>
> In a message dated 3/10/03 10:31:27 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> iconcu@comcast.net writes:
>
> << Can anyone tell me how much Cygon2E to use per gal. to spray for
borers?
> Does the temperature need to be above a certain degree before spraying? >>
>
> Sue,
> 2 Ounces/Gallon and it should be sprayed on a mild day when the new
> growth is up 4" to 6".
>
> Mark A. Cook
> BigAlligator@aol.com
> Dunnellon, Florida, USA
> USDA Zone 8b Sunset Zone 28
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 20:32:49 -0500
> From: "Showtime Farm" <showtime@bbtel.com>
> Subject: [iris] TB:CAT?: knock me over with a feather
>
> hello,
>
> Last night, while I was going over my hybridizing hopes for the coming
> season, ( I was talking to an empty room) my husband expressed an interest
> in iris.
>
> He said, "If there is an iris named Black Tie Required, get it."
>
> HA!
>
> Well, anyway, according to the online name listing, which only includes up
> to 2000 R&I, there is no such beast. I was quite surprised to see only
five
> names all told beginning with the word black.
>
> So, does anyone know if there is a Black Tie Required in the last two
years?
> I showed him Black Tie Affair in a catalog and he said he thought it
should
> have white in the middle. .oO( a black with a white beard? Could be
> fantastic!) So I said, if he wanted black and white he really wanted
> Midnight Moonlight, but I showed him a pic of that and he was not
impressed.
>
> Seems like, now that I think of it, there's a Puddy Tat, that's also black
> and white, but I don't have a mobile picture of that, and he's crashed in
> the bed tonight....
>
>
> Anyway,
>
> Christian
> Ky.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:18:04 -0500
> From: "Judy Hunt" <judyhunt1@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: [iris] TB:CAT?: knock me over with a feather
>
> Christian in Ky. said:
> <Last night, while I was going over my hybridizing hopes for the coming
> season, ( I was talking to an empty room) my husband expressed an interest
> in iris.
>
> He said, "If there is an iris named Black Tie Required, get it.">
>
> Christian, you keep talking about iris and he will likely catch the iris
> virus, too! To my knowledge, there is no iris named 'Black Tie Required',
> so tell him that he can work on hybridizing one that suits his vision of
> what it should be. We wives have to use our wiles at times, you
> know...<VBG> His interest may well become greater than yours! It's
> wonderful to have a shared hobby.
>
> Judy Hunt in Louisville, KY, Zone 6
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 20:57:37 -0600
> From: "Dana Brown" <ddbro@llano.net>
> Subject: RE: [iris] TB 10-10-10 fertilizer
>
> Well, we already use bone meal and blood meal, both in the fall. Every
iris
> gets bone meal under it when planted and we use the blood meal on our
> pansies. Knock on wood, we have had no digging problems. Not from our
> critters, canine and feline, nor do any of the wild critters dig it up.
> Guess we've been lucky and I like it like that.
> We have also used alfalfa tea, with wonderful results. However, as our
> garden has grown we have found it nearly impossible to make and put on the
> tea fast enough. We have been using a fertilizer that you make up like
> you do miracle gro. So much for each gallon and then spray it on. Once
> again the time involved here is immense. So, we are looking for a
granular
> you can broadcast on and water in. I have no problem making my own if I
can
> just come up with ingredients. After getting the idea here, I surfed the
> internet looking for hints or ingredients and didn't come up with much.
> Guess I will keep trying. My local supplier said he can get a custom mix
> made for me.....if I want an 18 wheeler's worth <VBG>.
>
> Dana Brown
> AIS Region 17 Judges Training Chairperson
> Director TBIS
> AIS, ASI, MIS, RIS, SPIS, TBIS
> Malevil Iris Gardens
> Lubbock, TX
> Zone 7 USDA, Zone 10 Sunset
> d*@malevil-iris.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-iris@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of Ellen
> Gallagher
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:25 AM
> To: iris@hort.net
> Subject: Re: [iris] TB 10-10-10 fertilizer
>
> - --- laurief <laurief@paulbunyan.net> wrote:
>
> >>> .... all sorts of wild carnivores in the surrounding woods
> (coyote, fox, timberwolf, black bear, various weasel relatives,
> raccoon, skunk, etc.), I wouldn't dare use anything with a bone
> or blood scent in my garden! <<<
>
> Laurie's list didn't include canine terriers which can make
> short order of any garden especially my Cairn. My departed
> canine friend Leo (dachshund) was a fast and furious hunter and
> digger. The terriers are essentially hunters and are on the
> prowl when they get the slightest whiff of blood. They are only
> in the garden with me keeping a close eye.
>
> Ellen
>
>
> =====
> Ellen Gallagher <ellengalla@yahoo.com> / Berlin, New Hampshire / USDA
Zone
> 3a
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Siberian-Species Iris Convention 2003, June 12-15
> http://members.rogers.com/iris2003/
> http://members.rogers.com/iris2003/newbb.html (clothing)
> http://www.irisregister.com/ (AIS checklist data)
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 19:20:10 -0800
> From: "Albert F. Limberg" <post303@pacbell.net>
> Subject: [iris] PHOTO - Watercolor Paintings
>
> I think I have some of her paintings in*.jpg format. I'll have to hunt
> them up and then figure out where and how to post them. Suggestions and
> shortcuts welcome.
>
> Al Limberg
> Concord, CA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:28:29 -0500
> From: "Showtime Farm" <showtime@bbtel.com>
> Subject: [iris] TB: possible flatty, and other odditys
>
> Hi y'all,
>
> Just call me Piggy, 'cause I'm always rooting around in something.
>
> Does anyone have an e'mail addy for Clive Russel in England. He wrote the
> article in the Jan 03 bulletin on flatties. I found a Dancing Twilight
that
> was described as having 6 beards, not sure that counts.
>
> Also spotted Blue Tulip. The description says that it has no anthers. I
> may be off on my anatomy but doesn't that mean that it has no pollen?
Makes
> me wonder if there shouldn't be a rule that it can't be registered if it
> doesn't have all the right parts. I only mean, why would you want to go
to
> all the trouble to register something that you know off the bat is pollen
> sterile?
> 'Course that would kinda throw a wrench in the flattie works too,....
> hmmm.........
>
> Christian
> ky
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:45:14 EST
> From: BigAlligator@aol.com
> Subject: [iris] SPEC: Now Blooming.
>
> In addition to the currently blooming Iris albicans, both types of
> African Irises are now in bloom. The white and the yellow started
yesterday.
>
> African Iris = Dietes.
>
> Mark A. Cook
> BigAlligator@aol.com
> Dunnellon, Florida, USA
> USDA Zone 8b Sunset Zone 28
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 06:39:58 EST
> From: GormleyGreenery@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [iris] TB: possible flatty, and other odditys
>
> In a message dated 3/11/2003 9:25:36 PM Central Standard Time,
> showtime@bbtel.com writes:
>
> > Does anyone have an e'mail addy for Clive Russel in England
>
> <A HREF="c*@aol.com">cliveruss@aol.com</A>
>
> Rita Gormley
> Gormley Greenery
> Cedar Hill, MO
> http://home.flash.net/~mindpath/gormley/
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 06:43:49 EST
> From: GormleyGreenery@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [iris] TB: possible flatty, and other odditys
>
> In a message dated 3/11/2003 9:25:36 PM Central Standard Time,
> showtime@bbtel.com writes:
>
> > Does anyone have an e'mail addy for Clive Russel in England
>
> <A HREF="c*@aol.com">cliveruss@aol.com</A>
>
> Rita Gormley
> Gormley Greenery
> Cedar Hill, MO
> http://home.flash.net/~mindpath/gormley/
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 04:37:31 -0500 (EST)
> From: Anita Moran <avmoran1@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [iris] TB:CAT?: knock me over with a feather
>
> Christian
>
> The only black I know with white is a MDB Black Stallion
> There's a picture of it on hortnet from Dana Brown
> :)
> Anita
>
http://www.hort.net/lists/highlight.cgi?bits=3&search=black+stallion&URL=iri
s-photos/mar00/msg00102.html#marker
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:27:33 -0500
> From: "Mark, Maureen" <MARKM@tc.gc.ca>
> Subject: RE: [iris] TB:CAT?: knock me over with a feather
>
> Another one you might want to check out is an SDB TRAJECTORY (Black 97)
Dark
> purple w/ white luminata patch & white beards.
>
> Maureen
> Ottawa, Ontario zone 4 where it is still snowing.
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Anita Moran [a*@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 4:38 AM
> To: iris@hort.net
> Subject: Re: [iris] TB:CAT?: knock me over with a feather
>
>
> Christian
>
> The only black I know with white is a MDB Black Stallion
> There's a picture of it on hortnet from Dana Brown
> :)
> Anita
>
http://www.hort.net/lists/highlight.cgi?bits=3&search=black+stallion&URL=iri
> s-photos/mar00/msg00102.html#marker
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:52:45 -0500
> From: "John Bruce" <jbruce1@cinci.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [iris] TB 10-10-10 fertilizer
>
> Mixing your own isn't too difficult. We mix our own
> fertilizer, but only for fall application. What we do:
>
> We buy bulk bags of triple superphosphate 0-45-0
> and muriate of potash 0-0-63. Since the potash is
> higher, we would mix approximately 4 parts of potash
> with 5 parts of the superphosphate (use a coffee can) to get equal
> proportions. This leaves the strength of the components
> roughly equal. To approximate the same application rate
> as 0-10-10 you would then apply this at 1/4 or 1/5 the amount
> per square foot. If you want to add nitrogen to the mix, use
> the same logic. Remember that under fertilizing is better than
> over fertilizing, especially when you are talking nitrogen
> and bearded irises.
>
> If you don't want to thru all this, find some common bulk fertilizer
> such as 6-24-24 and cut the application rate in half, giving the effect
> of 3-12-12.
>
> We do the concentrated bulk method because of cost savings and
> less bags to transport. One and one-half acres of irises can take
> a lot of fertilizer. We buy 50# bags of the fertilizer above for 15$
> on the triple sp and 10$ for the potash. One bag of each does us
> for the season.
>
> John
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> John Bruce jbruce1@cinci.rr.com
> Hidden Acres Iris Gardens
> http://home.cinci.rr.com/hiddenacres
> SW Ohio,USDA Zone 5b
> h*@cinci.rr.com
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:02:01 -0500
> From: Linda Mann <lmann@volfirst.net>
> Subject: [iris] Re: CULT: fertilizer
>
> I've also been having a hard time finding low nitrogen fertilzer
> lately. I don't like to add much N before we have our last murderous
> freeze, which usually occurs after lush, early spring growth (i.e.,
> later this month). All that seems to be available these days is lawn
> fertilizer (i.e., 10-10-10, 15-15-15), or, if I really hunt for it,
> 6-12-12.
>
> Bone meal is too tasty - last time I used it, my golden followed me
> everywhere, licking it up about as fast as I could spread it.
>
> After calling all the feed & garden supply stores within 30 miles of
> here, I gave up and was going to just use crushed limestone for now
> while waiting for the local Farmers CoOp to order some triple super
> phosphate. Then I found a half sack of 4-15-4 Plant Pusher buried
> under some junk in the shed. This is a highly soluble fertilizer used
> when transplanting tobacco sets. The local CoOp happens to have a few
> bags left from last year's tobacco season, so I plan to stock up for
> next spring.
>
> I wonder if something similar might be available in other parts of the
> world for transplants other than tobacco (i.e., vegetables,
> strawberries)? While making calls, I learned that 0-15-15 or something
> similar is available at some feed/farm stores later in the year (or now
> by special order) for fertilizing strawberries.
>
> Spring is definitely here for now! Burning the prairie this afternoon,
> a bit late, but we had to wait for things to dry out. Early "wild"
> daffodils almost in full bloom, red-purple little bulbous irises in one
> sunny location already gone. & I think I see a tiny little tip of the
> latest batch of iris seeds starting to poke thru the surface of the seed
> flats.
>
> - --
> Linda Mann east Tennessee USA zone 7/8
> Updates on migrant whooping cranes:
> http://www.savingcranes.org/whatsnew/Class2002FloridaMain.asp
> American Iris Society web site <http://www.irises.org>
> iris-talk/Mallorn archives: <http://www.hort.net/lists/iris-talk/>
> iris-photos/Mallorn archives: <http://www.hort.net/lists/iris-photos/>
> online R&I <http://www.irisregister.com>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:02:35 -0500
> From: Linda Mann <lmann@volfirst.net>
> Subject: [iris] OT-CHAT: Neil Mogensen?
>
> Has anybody heard how Neil is doing following his surgery?
>
> - --
> Linda Mann east Tennessee USA zone 7/8
> Updates on migrant whooping cranes:
> http://www.savingcranes.org/whatsnew/Class2002FloridaMain.asp
> American Iris Society web site <http://www.irises.org>
> iris-talk/Mallorn archives: <http://www.hort.net/lists/iris-talk/>
> iris-photos/Mallorn archives: <http://www.hort.net/lists/iris-photos/>
> online R&I <http://www.irisregister.com>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 03 10:14:28 -0600
> From: laurief <laurief@paulbunyan.net>
> Subject: Re: [iris] OT-CHAT: Neil Mogensen?
>
> >Has anybody heard how Neil is doing following his surgery?
>
> YES! I got an email from him a few days ago. He's home!!! His surgery
> went well, but he's still at risk for pneumonia and infections. His
> doctor has told him he absolutely MUST follow strict orders and NOT push
> things AT ALL that might compromise his recovery, so I expect Neil's
> gardening activities will be very limited this year again. But watch out
> next year!
>
> Please, everyone, keep those prayers and healing thoughts going Neil's
> way. This has been a very long road to recovery for him, and he's not to
> the end of it yet.
>
> Laurie
>
>
> - -----------------
> laurief@paulbunyan.net
> http://www.geocities.com/lfandjg/
> http://www.angelfire.com/mn3/shadowood/irisintro.html
> USDA zone 3b, AHS zone 4 - northern MN
> clay soil
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:19:32 -0500
> From: "Neil A Mogensen" <neilm@charter.net>
> Subject: [iris] Re: OT-CHAT: Neil Mogensen?
>
> Dear Linda and all---
>
> I came home from Duke a week ago tomoroow, remarkably early considering
what
> was done was the equivalent of being run over be a Mac truck. Everthing
that
> I could have desidered was accomplished except for one thing. My
swallowing
> allows a certain amount of bypass into the bronchia, putting me at risk
for
> pneumonia and infection. So I remain NPO (which I have been for 15
months)
> giving my reconstructed esophagus a chance to heal, to discover that is
what
> it is insead of part of the colon, and to let swelling go down.
>
> In June of 2001 when I had the first indications I had a problem which
turned
> out to be cancer, I had no idea I was in for such a rough ride. This was
my
> nineth surgical procedure since November 01, this one involving three
separate
> teams--a thoracic, an abdominal and a plastic surgical team. The surgeons
and
> staff at Duke are phenomenally good and I got to know more of them than I
ever
> dreamed or desired I would.
>
> I go back for an additional swallowing study on March 20 to measure
whatever
> change or improvement there has been. In the meantime I'm to lift
nothing,
> walk a lot and follow orders to the letter.
>
> Did I tell you more than you ever wanted to know? If so, I apologize.
>
> On to iris---the first of the new germinants poked their heads through the
> ground yesterday. I was beginning to wonder if I had done something
fatally
> wrong as this is astonishingly late for this to be happening. Considering
the
> wierd winter we have had I should not be surprised, I suppose.
>
> I'll be mostly in "lurker" status for some time yet. I spend very little
time
> at the computer yet.
>
> Neil Mogensen z 6b/7a (?) near Asheville, NC
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:38:34 -0500
> From: Linda Mann <lmann@volfirst.net>
> Subject: [iris] Re: HYB: seed germination
>
> Hooray for progress Neil - good to hear directly from you, & speedy
> recovery of swallowing & irising.
>
> Congrats on baby irises. It will be really interesting to see how they
> do when the March murderous freeze hits <g>. Let's hope you get some
> really toughies out of that bunch.
>
> <On to iris---the first of the new germinants poked their heads through
> the
> ground yesterday. I was beginning to wonder if I had
> done something fatally
> wrong as this is astonishingly late for this to be
> happening. Neil M>
>
> - --
> Linda Mann east Tennessee USA zone 7/8
> Updates on migrant whooping cranes:
> http://www.savingcranes.org/whatsnew/Class2002FloridaMain.asp
> American Iris Society web site <http://www.irises.org>
> iris-talk/Mallorn archives: <http://www.hort.net/lists/iris-talk/>
> iris-photos/Mallorn archives: <http://www.hort.net/lists/iris-photos/>
> online R&I <http://www.irisregister.com>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 12:13:34 -0500
> From: "Judy Hunt" <judyhunt1@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: [iris] PHOTO - Watercolor Paintings
>
> > I think I have some of her paintings in*.jpg format. I'll have to hunt
> > them up and then figure out where and how to post them. Suggestions and
> > shortcuts welcome.
>
> Al, I think all you need to do is adjust the image size so it is not too
> large for email, and attach the file to a post to the iris photo list. I
am
> no expert, but if you have a PC and run MS Windows, you should be able to
> use the photo editor that comes with Windows to adjust image size.
Someone
> correct me if I am mistaken, please!
>
> Judy Hunt
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:15:33 -0800
> From: "Hensler" <hensler@povn.com>
> Subject: Re: [iris] PHOTO - Watercolor Paintings
>
> For those who are looking for a top of the line graphics program, Paint
Shop
> Pro 8 beta (which means there may be a few bugs yet... not that I've found
> any) is being offered free. It does an amazing job of resizing and color
> correction (among other things) and the price can't be beat.
>
> Just go to http://www.jasc.com/pbeta/psp/default.asp and download a copy.
It
> does not overwrite any other versions of PSP you might already have on
your
> pc.
>
> Christy
> Skip & Christy Hensler
> THE ROCK GARDEN
> Newport, WA
> http://www.povn.com/rock/
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Judy Hunt" <judyhunt1@bellsouth.net>
> To: <iris@hort.net>
> >
> > Al, I think all you need to do is adjust the image size so it is not too
> > large for email, and attach the file to a post to the iris photo list.
I
> am
> > no expert, but if you have a PC and run MS Windows, you should be able
to
> > use the photo editor that comes with Windows to adjust image size.
> Someone
> > correct me if I am mistaken, please!
>
> ------------------------------
>
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