Re: Re: CULT: weather

Hi all,

We had frost on the ground over night.  I don't know how cold it did get
though.  My Iris are all still cover but for the bed right at the house.

Last year I had some pineappling.  the bloom developed very late but there was
little or no stem.

Char Region 8, New Berlin (Milwaukee) WI

Donald Eaves wrote:

> Dana,
>
> > I find this most interesting.  We went to 9 at the same time you went to
> 14
> >and although we had some foliage burn (some of it pretty severe) I found no
> >ill effects on the bloom.  Do you suppose the week or so difference in our
> >bloom time makes that much difference?
>
> Oh, yeah!  Two weeks of fan growth containing incipient bloom stalks?  Then
> a freeze penetrating that fan for a few hours?  The growth usually stops on
> a bloom fan.  They can even stay green until fall, but their life cycle as a
> rhizome for producing a bloom is finished.  The smaller and less developed
> the incipient stalk, the more likely the fan will stay green longer.
> Sometimes it is difficult to be sure they were potential bloom fans.  If
> they are carefully dissected at some point, the stalks can be identified
> usually.  They can be very small, though, deep in the core of the fan.  The
> stalk portion is what is truly killed.  It will either dry up or turn mushy
> and dangerous to the health of the plant.  Under my normal conditions they
> tend to wither and dry up, eventually detaching from the rhizome more
> naturally.  Occasionally everything starts turning soft and needs to be
> removed pronto.  I've had a couple of those already.  Fans that don't
> contain bloomstalks are the ones that eventually recover and grow.  When the
> core of a fan is leaf growth, it is more resistant to having the core
> killed.  Growth can look odd until the part that is damaged eventually grows
> out completely.  That can be a longer process that you'd expect, too,
> depending on the damage to the center of the fans.
>
> White frost everywhere this morning.  29F on the porch, probably as low as
> 26F in some place in my yard.  However the irises manage the freeze, it will
> certainly hurt a lot things otherwise.  I hate to see the oak trees get
> zapped in their current stage of spring growth, but they certainly got bit
> last night.  Probably not a good scenario here for the next several weeks.
> Maybe next year.
>
> Donald Eaves
> donald@eastland.net
> Texas Zone 7b, USA
>
> > We woke to snow on the ground on Friday morning and the freeze you avoided
> >last night got us.   We went down to 27, much better than the 23 they were
> >threatening us with.  It blasted all of the open buds but most of the
> stalks
> >that were not showing color look pretty good.  Of course we won't know for
> >sure until for a few days.  They are forecasting 27 tonight.  If they miss
> >it by as much as they did last night I will be thrilled.  I moved the two
> >pots of germinating seeds into the shop.  It sure was nice to see that
> >second pot of seedlings start to pop.  We found the second pot this morning
> >while we were looking for damage.  So, tonight they go inside too.  Maybe
> >there will be more in the morning!!
> > So sorry that you will lose most of your bloom.  That is so disheartening.
> >We were discussing this last night on the chat and when I told them that we
> >have never had a bloom season without a freeze after bloom started, they
> >were surprised.  Our SDB's start to bloom in March and our average last
> >freeze date is April 9th, so we always have a freeze after bloom starts.
> It
> >is just one of those things we have learned to live with.
> > Now thinning those seedlings without seeing them bloom would be hard.  My
> >seedlings are my pride and joy and I would rather see them bloom than the
> >rest of the iris.  I might have to expand my iris growing space just so I
> >could keep the babies.
> >
> >Good luck tonight!!
> >
> >Dana
> >
> >
> >Dana Brown
> >AIS Region 17 Judges Training Chairperson
> >Director TBIS
> >AIS, ASI, MIS, RIS, SPIS, TBIS
> >Malevil Iris Gardens
> >Lubbock, TX
> >Zone 7 USDA, Zone 10 Sunset
> >d*@malevil-iris.com
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-iris@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On Behalf Of Donald
> >Eaves
> >Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 9:50 AM
> >To: iris@hort.net
> >Subject: Re: [iris] Re: CULT: weather
> >
> >>Well, at least we should be used to it by now....
> >>The center (worst part) of this one is aiming right for you again Donald
> >>(Texas), so won't hit us as bad farther east.
> >
> >Used to it, even resigned to it happening more often than not, but not
> >liking it.  The late, very cold spell we've already had did a lot more
> >damage than I expected.  Most of the arilbred bloom got eliminated it seems
> >and the early TBs are showing weird shaped stalks and buds emerging - sure
> >signs of freeze damage.  I guess 14F is just going to penetrate the fans
> and
> >leave the effects if it falls after active growth has started.  I thought
> >I'd have more arilbreds escape and most of the TBs, but I was wrong.
> >
> >We missed a freeze last night.  Only 39 instead of the predicted 32.
> >Depending on the forecast as to what may be in store tonight and tomorrow
> >night.  A freeze now would more or less effectively close the door on iris
> >bloom this year.  I wasn't expecting a lot from the TBs this year anyway
> >after the decimation by the grasshoppers last summer.  But then we had a
> >nice, long mild winter with some moisture now and then.  They grew all
> >winter and looked to be managing to perhaps get to bloom size rhizomes.
> >Some apparently did, but the bloom will still be lighter than normal.
> Quite
> >a few seedlings with apparent stalks.  Want to see them.  I need their
> space
> >and I hate to discard them 'til I've seen them bloom.
> >
> >Donald Eaves
> >donald@eastland.net
> >Texas Zone 7b, USA
> >
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