Re: Re: If you could ignore hybridizing barriers...(question)

Christian and Tom; 
I think it is important to keep trying things. I just
found a reference that claims a cross between Iris
sibirica and Iris graminea. Probably no one ever tried
that before. Paltec is misleading because the parent
other parent from tectorum was not a pallida, it was
'Edina' which was more like an MTB. I believe Tom is
right that some plants will have more potential than
others. Hey, there are so many flat Iris that have
been produced surely one could find several that could
start a breeding strain. I don't remember anyone
trying. I always liked 'Rhythym' which is a diploid
TB. Surely there are tons of opportunities to try it
with many bearded species. Remember to always go two
generations no matter what the first looks like before
even assessing the potential. Have fun!

--- thomas silvers <tesilvers@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hello Christian,
> I look forward to seeing the results of your flattie
> work. I think that they're really neat irises and
> I've
> always wanted to work with them too. I had to decide
> to leave those plans to someone else for now; I just
> have too many plans already. You have to draw the
> line
> somewhere I guess.
> But, PLEASE don't let me discourage anything you
> might
> have been planning on trying. Actually, I think
> there's a whole lot more possible [as far as
> hybridizing goes] than we all think we know. I'm
> actually going to try some pretty far-out
> experiments
> myself. I know that people have said repeatedly,
> that
> bearded and beardless won't cross. But wouldn't it
> be
> fun, for one of us adventurous hardheads, to prove
> all
> the naysayers wrong. 
> 
> People said for many years that corn/maize wouldn't
> cross with one of it's relatively close relatives, a
> grass called Tripsacum. Crosses had been tried and
> never been successful.
> Then one day a determined person, tried the cross
> (yet
> again) with a certain strain of popcorn, that just
> happened to be more compatible (with Tripsacum) than
> most corns. Now it's fairly standard procedure to
> cross corn and Tripsacum, you just have to be sure
> to
> start with a compatible strain of corn.
> 
> Who knows... maybe there is a particular bearded
> iris
> or beardless iris that would just be cooperative
> enough to allow that supposed barrier
> (bearded/beardless) to be breached. One thing is for
> sure, if it exists, we'll never find it, without
> continued trying.
> 
> I know that I've personally experienced considerable
> difficulty in getting hybrids between bearded and
> Iris
> tectorum. My determination to continue trying
> crosses
> came largely from knowing that it really was
> possible
> [because of the existence of the iris 'Paltec']. If
> noone had ever done it before, I could have easily
> concluded that it wasn't possible, after multiple
> failed attempts. 
> 
> So, go ahead and try some long shots along with your
> more conventional stuff.
> 
> Good luck, Tom
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