Re: Re: HYB: If you could ignore hybridizing barriers...(q


Linda; When I mean second generation I am speaking of
crossing the offspring of the first with each other.
This should produce the greatest diversity. Note, as
you probably know, the same cross but reversing the
plant that is pod parent will give different results.
I like to think of the pod parent as the main
contributor to growth habits (physiology and
metabolosm) because of the cytoplasmic inheritance.
Also don't give up on plants that seem infertile the
first year. Fertility usually increases with time.
Also poor growers can develop into better growers as
time goes by. I suspect both of these instances are
due to cells weeding out chromosome artifacts that
interfere with cell division and that may have
occurred with an initial wide cross. 

--- Linda Mann <lmann@volfirst.net> wrote:

> Bob, could you elaborate on this a bit?
> 
> When you say 'two' generations, do you mean go to
> the F3?  Or just F1 &
> F2?
> 
> If you mean interspecies crosses, what do you
> suggest trying to cross
> the children with?  Each other?  One of the parents?
> A relative of the
> parents?
> 
> I'm thinking of the I. pallida X various "modern" TB
> crosses I made.
> Have discarded most of them, now that I'm having so
> much fun with the
> current mess of more modern stuff, but am still
> working with a few of
> the descendants of the first seedling (S1, of course
> <g>) I. pallida X
> MULBERRY ROSE.
> 
> Never had any luck with intentional crosses with S1,
> but it does set bee
> pods fairly regularly.  Bee babies either look much
> like S1 or are
> totally different.
> 
> One superhealthy bee baby (S1bwh) has been mostly
> uncooperative, but
> finally have seeds from it X SEAKIST, one seedling
> up in the last few
> days.
> 
> Another (S1bpk) puts up stalks approaching 5 ft,
> corkscrewing around - a
> bit scary looking monstrosity - a few seedlings up
> from it X TRANS
> ORANGE.
> 
> <...Remember to always go two
>                    generations no matter what the
> first looks like
> before
>                    even assessing the potential.
> ...>
> 
> --
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