Re: HYB: REB: orange?
iris@hort.net
  • Subject: Re: HYB: REB: orange?
  • From: C* C* <i*@aim.com>
  • Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 23:02:50 -0500
 By selecting  the most vigourous growers and ones with lowest mature leaf
count, you move  bloom time forward.

The weather conditions that set flower buds is the same for summer rebloom and
Fall cyclic.

The weather conditions that inhibit  rebloom is the same for both.

So if a plant matures fast enought to get bud set before  too warm weather
sets in, you will get  early fall cylcic rebloom.  Same with summer
rebloomers.

So which ever line of  rebloom triggers you are looking for, vigour and  low
mature leaf maturity  will get you there.

But with Summer rebloomers you have more of a problem recovering genes in out
crosses.

My money is on getting good fall cylic rebloomers for your areas will be a
much fster process then getting  good summer rebloomers.

If HOM can do it , others FC  can as well.

Chuck Chapman










---- Original Message ----
From: Linda Mann <lmann@lock-net.com>
To: Chuck Chapman <irischapman@aim.com>
Sent: Fri, Mar 11, 2011 5:24 pm
Subject: Re: [iris] HYB: REB: orange?


Yeah, I know.  But I don't want fall cyclic - nearly all of them are so late
they freeze out so are worthless here as rebloomers.  Except HoM.

On 3/11/2011 4:06 PM, Chuck Chapman wrote:
> For a Fall cyclic, the rebloom genes from any FC rebloomer will do.? Pick
first any? tangerine FC or if not happy with them, then any yellow FC.
>
> Then pick an orange that grows well for you. If yopu have a number to pick
from, choose one wioth lowest mature leaf count at bloom time.

There's the problem - I only have two oranges that grow for me (one grows
well, the other has hung on for years, so I guess it grows 'well' too,
compared to everything else). Sibs from GOLDEN APPLE X CRYSTAL GLITTERS, pale
orange.

Haven't ever been able to keep a storebought orange alive.  Did manage to get
pollen from AUTUMN RIESLING before it croaked.

2009 was another bad pod year, so had to fall back on the survivors, wound up
with pods on IMM, HoM, MISSOURI MIST using my orange seedling pollen.
Substance is likely to be really soft on all of these. :-(, but at least they
are super robust here.  Two surviving older seedlings from the same cross with
IMM have been winter bloomers ;-)  November cycle. In years when hard freeze
has held off till then.

It would save me a lot of time if I can find a modernish "summer" reblooming
orange, no matter how puny, that I can coddle in a pot long enough to get some
pollen to put on the best from the above.  AUTUMN ORANGELITE is too big a leap
backward!  Tho I probably will experiment with it if I can't come up with
anything else.

Been getting some deep saturated yellows from HoM X various pinks, occasional
t beard.   But not breeding for rebloom till now.  Hence my wish for a
reblooming orange to mix some of the above with.

> Some of your seedlings will be FC. Then? cross? best back to the original
orange, or to best sibling. Crossing back to orange will get? you ther sooner.
>
> Chuck Chapman

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