RE: HYB: TB: babies blooming - now what?
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- Subject: RE: [iris-talk] HYB: TB: babies blooming - now what?
- From: J* R*
- Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 08:52:48 -0700
I know exactly what you mean. Guess that's why the biggest commercial
hybridizers/growers are in the Pacific Northwest or in California. Of
course, many iris selected for performance in one hybridizer's garden don't
grow in another climate. The open standards you mention are a common
problem with seedlings in my experience, and pretty close to a fatal flaw
to my taste. I've given up on using FRINGE BENEFITS as a parent, and may
reluctantly give up on ROCK STAR, because almost every seedling they
produce seems to have open standards. I have plenty of named iris that
barely break even on increase every year, so even if I had room for a few
hundred fans of a single seedling I agree that it seems daunting to have to
wait so long. What can you do? I take the Darwinistic, fatalistic
approach: if it isn't even vigorous in it's home garden, it probably
wasn't worth introducing anyway. It hurts to be so cruel to yourself, but
if you get anything that that really does make the cut, maybe it'll be so
good that even an unknown like you or I could sucessfully raise some
interest & recognition. Or, maybe see if a smaller commercial garden will
work some sort of introduction deal with you. Good luck.
John Reeds
jreeds@microsensors.com
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From: linda Mann[SMTP:lmann@mailhub.icx.net]
Reply To: iris-talk@egroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 5:34 AM
To: iris-talk
Subject: [iris-talk] HYB: TB: babies blooming - now what?
The first IMMORTALITY x CELEBRATION SONG child has opened some blooms
and of course I think it's the most wonderful, beautiful, etc etc.
Now I'm supposed to grow 1000 of them for at least 5 years before
introducing it, right? Check back in about 25 yrs...How many
individuals do those of you who are backyard hybridizers grow? Do you
count the first bloom as year one with one plant, the year two with
however many increases (this one is in year two - none bloomed last year
- & has maybe 10 increases, 2 stalks).... where's my calculator...so
that you end up with 1000 the fifth year?
What major faults do I look for, other than inconsistency of bloom and
plug ugliness? I won't be able to judge inconsistency here very well -
most of the best are inconsistent because of the late freezes.
Other faults to look for? Poor substance, low bud count (also affected
by the freezes and drought), what else? This one has partially open
standards this year, aggravated by the late freeze, and somewhat smaller
than average flowers - are those faults?
At least I won't have to think about lack of vigor - the growing
conditions take care of that!
This is so much fun. More babies to come...
Linda Mann east Tennesseee USA zone 7/8
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