RE: SHOW: Tough judges
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- Subject: RE: [iris-talk] SHOW: Tough judges
- From: S* S*
- Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 21:55:14 -0400
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Bill,
Judging against what is there is not very fair, actually, and it can lead to
a lot of complications. I am actually quite surprised to hear something
like this coming from one who deals in iris. I would expect you to, at
least publicly, adhere to a higher standard. After all, if you are at least
perceived to have the greatest iris, and not necessarily the best of a poor
lot, would it not be good for your business?
Dogs are judge in a similar manner--they are judged against the ideal of the
breed. To adhere to your country fair (and only having missed two of the
last 35 years of the Hardwick Community Fair (the oldest continuously held
fair in the United States)), cows, sheep, claves, are judged against the
ideal as well.
I do think, however, if you had read the whole of my post, and given it some
time to sit, you will see that, with the fish, a lot is in the hands of the
local show committee in setting how the judges are to actually judge the
show. While I may bemoan having to give a first place to a fish that is not
really deserving of a first place, but is simply the best of the lot, it is
done, though the judging sheets will reveal a universally low scoring range
for the class. I can't tell you how many times I have defended myself, or
in the case where I have been on the show committee, defended other judges,
for having properly scored a fish s being too small, having immature fin
development, or whatever to an irate show person. It truly pays to have a
thick skin as a judge.
If, in the iris world, show committees are allowed to set local rules, then
they should. And, they should also inform the judges how those rules are to
work. If there are allowances that need to be made for the weather, let it
be known to the judges to please make said allowances. If a judge is not
cooperative, then, that judge needs not to be invited back as a judge in
following years. An uncooperative judge does soon find himself to be out of
work.
However, it is the wise show committee that is not too lax, for then they
not only hurt the hobby, but they hurt themselves as well. Gardening is far
more unpredictable than raising good fish. Ask my other half. She is often
jealous of my plants, with the little work I put in on them, while she
spends many hours toiling over hers, often with less superior results. Of
course, I do try to pick my plants for the area, while she will go out and
buy on a whim, not really knowing if the plant is good for our conditions or
not. <g> (But, I have to admit--she knows her dogs, how to train them, how
to groom them, etc., and I am left in her dust in that area.)
\\Steve//
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-----Original Message-----
From: William Stone [w*@volcano.net]
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 6:24 PM
To: iris-talk@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [iris-talk] SHOW: Tough judges
Wow!! First off I do not show irises but if I did I would want them judged
by what is entered in the same show. Just like a county fair, what is
entered is what is competing. Ideal standards are great for a National
title but let's judge the competition on the table in front of us. I
believe this also eliminates many a excuse. Bill
Stone's Iris Garden
Volcano, CA 3500' elevation and in full bloom if the rain lets up.
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