Re: Florence winners 2009

International Iris Competition in Florence, Italy 2009

1stB B  RAVISSANT B Cayeau France

2ndB B  NOCTAMBULE Cayeau B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B 
B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B
 B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B 

3rdB B B  FORTUNATE SON Schreinerbs USA

4th B B SECRET RITES Keppel USA

5th B B COMING STORM Schreinerbs

6thB  MARBELLA Sutton USA

7th B B ROMANCE Cayeau

8th B B NOTTE DI LUGO Bianco Italy

9th B B OBERMAN Loktev Russia

10th B B # 062-1 Affortunati Italy

B 

B 

Best RedB B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B  FORTUNATE SON Schreinerbs

Best Commercial B B B B B B  NOCTAMBULE Cayeau

Best ItalianB B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B  NOTTE DI LUGO Bertuzzi

Best BranchedB B B B B B B B B B B  TIMIOS Grosvenor Australia

Original ColorB B B B B B B B B B B B JAZZ BAND Keppel

Best ScentedB B B B B B B B B B B B B B  # 245-01 Bianco

Best BlueB B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B  BLUE VIEW Grosvenor

Best VioletC2B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B  #04-326A Merle Roberts USA

Best Early VarietyB B B B B  DREAMING IN CREAM Grosvenor

Best Late:B  N/A

Best Border BeardedB  BIGOTTO Bianco


Ciao!B  Kathy Chilton


-----Original Message-----
From: iris DIGEST <iris-owner@hort.net>
To: iris-digest@hort.net
Sent: Wed, 6 May 2009 8:45 am
Subject: [iris] iris DIGEST V1 #839




ris DIGEST           Wednesday, May 6 2009           Volume 01 : Number 839

In this issue:
        Re: [iris] RE: HYB: Rose scent
       Re: [iris] Re: HYB: help - breeding non-messy hafts?
       Re: [iris] RE: HYB: Rose scent
       RE: Fw: [iris] RE: HYB: Rose scent
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Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 13:32:34 -0400
rom: "J. Griffin Crump" <jgcrump@cox.net>
ubject: Re: [iris] RE: HYB: Rose scent
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!  --  Griff

 ----- Original Message -----
rom: "Impressive Irises" <colleen@impressiveirises.com.au>
o: <iris@hort.net>
ent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 12:30 AM
ubject: Re: [iris] RE: HYB: Rose scent

 Hi Griff

 While irises such as Bev Sills, Silkirim etc, do have a light pleasant
 perfume it's not in the same class as the strong Jasmine  perfume as
 those I mentioned, before, have. This perfume can be smelt 10 ft away on
 a warm day, and people react very positively to it.

 Colleen

 J. Griffin Crump wrote:
> Colleen  --
  You might be right that perfume is recessive, but I'm
> surprised when you speak of "the only strong  nice scent I've detected
> in irises".  I find that most irises have some fragrance, and quite a
> few are strongly scented, with usually a pleasant fragrance.  And
> then, there are some stinkers, too.  Do your fellow
> hybridizers/growers there find the same thing as you?  --  Griff
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Impressive Irises"
> <colleen@impressiveirises.com.au>
> To: <iris@hort.net>
> Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 4:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [iris] RE: HYB: Rose scent
>
>
>> Hi
>>
>> The only strong nice scent I've detected in irises is a jasmine
>> scent. Forever Yours has it and so does one of mine releases Carol E.
>> This is from Deja Blue x Autumn Thunder, neither of which has this
>> lovely perfume. Unfortunately Carol E is pollen sterile so I'm
>> having  slow working on the genetics, but I suspect perfume is a
>> recessive gene.
>>
>> Colleen Modra
>>
>> Adelaide Hills
>> South Australia
>>
>> www.impressiveirises.com.au
>>
>>
>> Thomas silvers wrote:
>>> Hi Griff,
>>> I'm fascinated by the diversity of scents I've noticed among the
>>> bearded irises. I haven't come across a rose-scented one yet, but
>>> don't see why it wouldn't be possible. Is this in one of your SDB
>>> seedlings?
>>>
>>> Hi Anner, it's good to hear from you again [I had been a little
>>> worried and was on the verge of e-mailing you :0)].=2
0You wrote:
>>>  "that among the fragrances cataloged in the AIS 1939 Check List is
>>> 'rose.' So, for that matter, are waterlily, may-apple, celery, and
>>> the scent of the flowers of poplar and dogwood"
>>>
>>> I'm not familiar with waterlily, may-apple, poplar and dogwood
>>> scents, but I can vouch for the celery scent. That's exactly the
>>> thought that came to mind when I smelled the scent of my two newly
>>> registered diploid MTB rebloomers (CRICKET SONG and EASY SMILE).
>>> It's not exactly the kind of scent one's hoping for in a flower, but
>>> I guess it's not unpleasant.
>>>
>>> Take care guys, Tom
>>>
>>> From: "J. Griffin Crump" <jgcrump@cox.net> Date: Fri, 1 May 2009
>>> 22:24:11 -0400 -----------------------------------------------
>>> Today, I plucked a bloom from a seedling which had sent up a stunted
>>> stalk to
>>> see how it might look up out of the foliage.  I was astonished to
>>> get a rose
>>> scent  --  just as truly as if one were smelling a deep, red rose.
>>> Has anyone
>>> else had that experience with an iris?  --  Griff
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>>
>

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Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 15:33:18 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
rom: Paul Archer <pharcher@mindspring.com>
ubject: Re: [iris] Re: HYB: help - breeding non-messy hafts?
I haven't acquired many hafty types. not sure if that was on purpose or not.
As
ar as crossing to get rid of it...I haven't gotten that far as I'm pretty
ocused on other characters=2
0at the moment.  The haftiest ones I can recall are
est Bet and Chinese Treasure and good ol' Frank Adams and their kids haven't
een to bad in the haft area, nothing glaring that I can recall of there was
nough to choose from that I didn't mind tossing them.  The plicatas I have
orked with have been Jessie's Song, Light Beam, Chicasaw Sue and Purple
Pepper
nd most of their kids I've selected have veinging around the beard area.

he two seedlings might help with rebloom as Good show is a rebloom carrier
and
everly Sills does rebloom, just not here or NC
Oh yeah, and you asked if you should gow them in pots ot put them straight
int
e ground?  Well, I guess you are the better judge at that but it sems like
you
ou had better start them in pots until you have enough to split some off to
try
n the ground.  They might do better in the ground when acclimated as well.


 -----Original Message-----
From: Linda Mann <lmann@lock-net.com>
Sent: May 5, 2009 8:16 AM
To: iris@hort.net
Subject: [iris] Re: HYB: help - breeding non-messy hafts?

Betty has suggested (I think) that breeding with non-plics helps avoid
messy hafts, but I'm kind of stuck with most/all? the rebloom lines that
I want to work with being from plic ancestry.

So the question is, what to do with them now that I have them.

Obvious answer is toss them, start over, hope for something
better/cleaner, avoid dark colors other than really dark, ....

Paul, others, have you crossed GOOD S
HOW or one of your other "clean"
seedlings with something hafty to see what happens?

I've done some experiments myself, but only a few blooms so far:

hafty variegata X HELLO DARKNESS = much less hafty dark purple self, one
seedling.

slightly hafty cream, veins tan X TREASURED = all clean children -
yellow, white, pale blue, pink.

Both of these crosses are drifting farther away from potential rebloom :-(
--
Linda Mann east Tennessee USA zone 7/8
East Tennessee Iris Society <http://www.korrnet.org/etis>
American Iris Society web site <http://www.irises.org>
talk archives: <http://www.hort.net/lists/iris-talk/>
photos archives: <http://www.hort.net/lists/iris-photos/>
online R&I <http://www.irisregister.com>

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Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 19:38:46 -0400
rom: "J. Griffin Crump" <jgcrump@cox.net>
ubject: Re: [iris] RE: HYB: Rose scent
Tom  --  Sorry I missed this message (and one of Anner's, I think) earlier.
he rose-scented seedling is a TB, 063B14: (02P2 X Cherry Glen.  The
arentage of 02P2 is Saturday Night Live X
953X7:(93F4:((Wabash seedlings)xCongo Song) x Sweeter Than Wine). Here's a
hoto.  --  Griff
- ----- Original Message -----
rom: "thomas silvers" <tesilvers@yahoo.com>
o: "iris-talk" <iris@hort.net>
ent: Monday, May 04, 2009 8:13 AM
ubject: [iris] RE: HYB: Rose scent

 Hi Griff,
 I'm fascinated by the diversity of scents I've noticed among the bearded
 irises. I haven't come across a rose-scented one yet, but don't see why it
 wouldn't be possible. Is this in one of your S
DB seedlings?

 Hi Anner, it's good to hear from you again [I had been a little worried
 and was on the verge of e-mailing you :0)]. You wrote:

 "that among the fragrances cataloged in the AIS 1939 Check List is 'rose.'
 So, for that matter, are waterlily, may-apple, celery, and the scent of
 the flowers of poplar and dogwood"

 I'm not familiar with waterlily, may-apple, poplar and dogwood scents, but
 I can vouch for the celery scent. That's exactly the thought that came to
 mind when I smelled the scent of my two newly registered diploid MTB
 rebloomers (CRICKET SONG and EASY SMILE). It's not exactly the kind of
 scent one's hoping for in a flower, but I guess it's not unpleasant.

 Take care guys, Tom

 From: "J. Griffin Crump" <jgcrump@cox.net>
 Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 22:24:11 -0400
 -----------------------------------------------
 Today, I plucked a bloom from a seedling which had sent up a stunted stalk
 to
 see how it might look up out of the foliage.  I was astonished to get a
 rose
 scent  --  just as truly as if one were smelling a deep, red rose.  Has
 anyone
 else had that experience with an iris?  --  Griff

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of
63B14 09 rose scent copy.jpg]
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Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 04:01:19 -0700 (PDT)
rom: thomas silvers <tesilvers@yahoo.com>
ubject: RE: Fw: [iris] RE: HYB: Rose scent
Hi Griff,
hat's a pretty iris to have such a nice
scent too!
I have two seedlings that I think have what Colleen was referring to when she
rote:
"While irises such as Bev Sills, Silkirim etc, do have a light pleasant
perfume
t's not in the same class as the strong Jasmine perfume as those I mentioned,
efore, have. This perfume can be smelt 10 ft away on a warm day, and people
eact very positively to it."
Both of my fragrant-from-a-distance seedlings are from heavy KUPARI ancestry.
his glaciata pallida has a strong sweet scent too. No need to bend down to
mell these guys - and yet it's not the kind of scent that becomes
overpowering.
his would agree with Colleen's observation that people react very positively
to
t.
On a side note, two other scent observations... I smelled the Varda Gorge
clone
f Iris reichenbachii, when it was in bloom recently and it has an unusual
iris
cent that I've smelled before, but am having a hard time remembering which
iris
melled like this. It's almost "chocolately", but not really... maybe it was
one
f the variegata species clones.
lso have you ever smelled the MTB VIBRANT ROSE? I know it sounds crazy, but
very time I smell that one I think "hot dogs".
ake care, Tom
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