Re: REF: amoena vs neglecta & bitone vs bicolor

Jeff -- Not having a Schreiner's catalogue from the time, I don't know whether Schreiner called BEST BET a neglecta, but I meant to indicate that it is other iris aficianados, not Schreiner's, who have referred to it as an amoena. Whatever, it is a beautiful iris, if hard to keep in some limates. -- Griff 

Zone 7 along the tidal Potomac near Mount Vernon, in Virginia
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey Walters" <jeffwiris@yahoo.com> 
To: <iris@hort.net>
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [iris] REF: amoena vs neglecta & bitone vs bicolor



--- "J. Griffin Crump" <jgcrump@cox.net> wrote:


> Even so, in recent years, there has been a

tendency by some to apply the

term
"amoena" to irises whose standards are, in fact, not
white, but very light
versions of the color of the falls.  One rather
extreme example is BEST BET,
even though
its hybridizer described the standards as "light
wisteria blue".


Griff,

Though you do not say that it was so, if the
hybridizer did not apply the more appropriate term
"neglecta" to BEST BET, perhaps it was due to
marketing considerations, since the literal meaning of
the Latin word is obvious from its English derivative,
and that hybridizer deals with a much broader
clientele than the iris cognoscenti.



 Remembering, of course, that

"amoena", other than
historically being applied to a particular color
pattern in irises, does not
in itself denote any color or pattern, but simply
means "pleasant", so we,
as irisarians, can determine how the  term is to be
used.


Surely, if the word "amoena" is to retain any
usefulness as a term descriptive of color pattern in
irises, there needs to be some cicumscription of its
generally understood meaning for that purpose,
regardless of the literal sense of the original Latin.
(Or do I detect a whiff of the late-lamented "OT" in
your comment?).

Jeff Walters
in uptate South Carolina
USDA Zone 7b





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