RE: intro & Iris pallida 'Variegata'
iris@hort.net
  • Subject: RE: intro & Iris pallida 'Variegata'
  • From: &* S* <s*@familyszabo.com>
  • Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 10:04:35 -0500

No, I lived in a town whose population was largely of Polish descent with
many older persons who had come from the old country--Poland. I am much
better at pronouncing Polish names and words on sight than I am Hungarian
ones. However, I have a decent knowledge of both cultures foods, and I am
better a preparing a Hungarian dish than a Polish one, though a lot of the
dishes are nearly the same, just with different names.

\\Steve//

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-iris@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of J.
Agoston
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 4:23 AM
To: iris@hort.net
Subject: Re: [iris] intro & Iris pallida 'Variegata'

Why Steve, do you live in Poland?

2010/11/21 Steve Szabo <steve@familyszabo.com>

> Janos,
>
> Unfortunately my father never bothered to teach us Hungarian, though he
> spoke it with his mother and others of that generation until she died, and
> very infrequently after that. What little I did learn from my grandmother
> has now been mostly forgotten, no chance to practice or learn more in a
> mostly Polish community.
>
> \\Steve//
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-iris@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of J.
> Agoston
> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 6:09 PM
> To: iris@hort.net
> Subject: Re: [iris] intro & Iris pallida 'Variegata'
>
> Griff, it is so nice of you trying to use hungarian diacritical marks.
> Well the case is  this year my city was flooded with rain, it was a marsh
> formerly, so soil is saturated in late autumn till end february, and of
> course when it is flooded. XD
> Actually I try to sow seeds next week, I managed to get a few from granny,
> she has some iris in her garden, I bought them for her, but now i'd like
to
> grow some varieties by myself too. I was in the luck of moving them to a
> sandy-kind-of-soil. Unexpectedly the wet weather was so good for my Iris
> ochroleuca gigantea, the rhizomes have like 6-10 new shoots formed this
> year. I've bought some 50/+ spuria varieties and around 10 Louisiana-s,
> they
> are planted in the clay. I hope they'll survive in Z5a.
>
> I would like to collect I. W flavescens seeds to next year. I hope
> something
> unexpected will come out! Ohh, and I have to plant the Sky Hooks seeds
too.
> Tomorrow I try to send a link with some pictures, if I'll have some time.
>
> And I also would like to know why it is advised to plant bearded iris
after
> flowering during summer? I learned that perennials should be transplanted
> in
> dormancy as bulbs.
>
> Thank you for the warm welcome! I'll be here, read & write if I'll have
> time. Thank you Steve too!
>
> Bye,
> Janos
>
> 2010/11/20 Steve Szabo <steve@familyszabo.com>
>
> > Griff,
> >
> > If your messages are originally done in HTML, it is the translation to
> > plain
> > text that is screwing you up. You need to write them in plain text and
> when
> > you need a diacritical, use the <ALT>ASCII combination to create that
> > character or use the character map to pick and choose the correct
> > character.
> > Do note, however, this only works if the character set you are using
> > supports those characters.
> >
> > \\Steve//
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-iris@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of J.
> > Griffin Crump
> > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 5:09 PM
> > To: iris@hort.net
> > Subject: Re: [iris] intro & Iris pallida 'Variegata'
> >
> > Rats!  It did it again.  I'll spare everyone another try.  I'm sure
Janos
> > can figure out what I tried to stick together but Yahoo has put asunder.
> >  At
> >
> > least, I think it must be Yahoo, since messages in Irish sent to and fro
> on
> > my server (not Yahoo) go through without a hitch.  --  Griff
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: J. Griffin Crump
> > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 4:53 PM
> > To: iris@hort.net
> > Subject: [iris] intro & Iris pallida 'Variegata'
> >
> > Wow!  What a mess.  Maybe because my reply to Janos was linked to some
> > other
> > keyboard system, the email process changed all of the vowels having a
> > diacritical mark to some other letter  --  thus producing gibberish.
> > Hopefully, this message will go out as written.  --  Griff
> >
> >
> > Szervusz, Janos!  --  De jsl beszil angolzl!  Sajnos, nincs nekem magyar
> > billentyuzet, is azirt nem tudom tovabb magyarzl mrni.
> >
> > Both i. pallida aureovariegata and i. pallida argenteovariegata have
> > variegated foliage.  Aureo, as the name suggests, has strong yellow and
> > green striped leaves, while argenteo has white and silver-green striped
> > leaves.  An excellent photo of aureo and argenteo growing side by side
is
> > available at http://www.flickr.com/photos/74528046@N00/2105601634/.  I
> > should think that, since your plant starts off buttery yellow, it is
> > aureovariegata.  All the illustrations of these two irises that I have
> seen
> > have purple flowers, but I would think/hope that they set seed and that
> > there would be flower color variations by now.  Have you tried making
> > crosses yourself?
> >
> > As to the wet soil, iris pallida, like most bearded irises, likes it
dry.
> > Do you live in the Puszta?  If in a wet part, you may need to construct
> > raised beds, which isn't hard to do.  We can tell you how.
> >
> > If you sow bearded iris seeds in the late autumn of, let us say, 2011,
> you
> > will get sprouts in the following spring (2012) and can expect some
bloom
> > in
> > the next year (2013).
> >
> > You are very welcome to our list, and I hope that you will maintain
> contact
> > so that you can get a good start on hybridizing in the coming spring.
> >
> > Ssk szerencsit kmvanok!  --  Griff

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