Re: REB: HYB: rebloom breeding
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  • Subject: Re: REB: HYB: rebloom breeding
  • From: B* W* <1*@rewrite.hort.net>
  • Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 13:27:44 -0500

This is yet another class of rebloom that I've not seen before. (or heard of) What are some of the CA rebloomers that never rebloom in other climates? 

I've had Pure As Gold, October Sky, Lord of Rings and others bloom in my (one of the most difficult) garden during mild years.  My understanding of "sporadic."  

<<The California rebloomers are not iris that rebloom in extended warm 
climates like California, but iris that rebloom ONLY in warm extended 
seasons such as California, and nowhere else.>>


Betty Wilkerson
Zone 6 KY
autmirislvr@aol.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Chapman <db4f61431@rewrite.hort.net>
To: iris <iris@hort.net>
Sent: Wed, Nov 26, 2014 8:16 am
Subject: Re: [iris] REB: HYB: rebloom breeding

The California rebloomers are not iris that rebloom in extended warm 
climates like California, but iris that rebloom ONLY in warm extended 
seasons such as California, and nowhere else.

I haven't been saying that they wont get rebloomers. But that the 
California rebloomers will not add anything   from their rebloom genes  
to the potential to rebloom in climates  other then the warm climates 
like southern California.

Chuck Chapman

-----Original Message-----
From: Linda Mann <1*@rewrite.hort.net>
To: iris <i*@hort.net>
Sent: Wed, Nov 26, 2014 3:30 am
Subject: [iris] REB: HYB: rebloom breeding

Chuck, I'm curious - you've mentioned several times here and on Face
Book that several people have tried crossing 'California' (west coast,
Oz) rebloomers with cold hardy rebloomers and with no success in 
getting
rebloom.  I think that's what you've been saying, that the rebloom
genetics are different.

But isn't that what most/all of Byers introduced rebloomers were?  And
some of us (Betty, me, Mary Lou) seem to be getting occasional 'summer'
(early fall - August) rebloom from 'sporadic'/west coast rebloomers.

Mary Lou has posted one on Face Book that's bloomed   April, May, July,
August and October. 10-511ARE: ((Tomorrow's Child x Feed Back) early RE
X Decadence).  In Illinois (or maybe she's in Indiana - I get those two
"I" states mixed up...)

So I'm curious who those breeders were, what they tried to use and what
climate they were in?

Have you tried to grow any of Byers introductions?  Seems like I
remember your posting  some of them.  Are any of them 'early'/summer
bloomers in your climate?  Have you made any crosses with them?

The more I look at pedigrees of some of these things, the more baffled 
I
am.  Lurking recessives?  Doubled up gametes? Warmer temperature
triggers that dont' get triggered wherever those folks you were talking
about were growing their seedlings?

Curious if you have any new thoughts about the warm weather/early
rebloom genetics.

Linda Mann
east TN USA zone 7

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