Re: REB: HYB: rebloom breeding
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  • Subject: Re: REB: HYB: rebloom breeding
  • From: C* C* <d*@rewrite.hort.net>
  • Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 20:32:10 -0500
In my zone 4 garden I'm never ever going to get 5 months of summer warm growing conditions after bud set. So I'll never ever get a Preferential rebloomer to rebloom here. And most will fade out and die out in my growing conditions. If I used them I'd weaken my stock and keep chasing my tail.
I sort out the types of rebloomers based on the genes that control rebloom. The primary rebloom genes . Combining the rebloom genes with the secondary genes in plants with good hardy genes and great flower form is way to go. The preferential ( warm climate rebloomers) have nothing to offer me, or most breeders of rebloomers who do not live in a zone 9 area. It is an illusion for anyone not in a zone 9 (perhaps not for some zone 8). 

Chuck Chapman

-----Original Message-----
From: Betty Wilkerson <101n@rewrite.hort.net>
To: iris <iris@hort.net>
Sent: Wed, Nov 26, 2014 7:53 pm
Subject: Re: [iris] REB: HYB: rebloom breeding

I see . . .Â


I'm sure the ones I found wouldn't be the ones you're talking about.Â
Most of the stuff in the checklist can rebloom nearly anywhere if the weather and everything else lines up. ÂDidn't we once call them triggers? Â 




Betty Wilkerson
Zone 6 KY
autmirislvr@aol.com




-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Chapman &lt;db4f61431@rewrite.hort.net&gt;
To: iris &lt;iris@hort.net&gt;
Sent: Wed, Nov 26, 2014 1:28 pm
Subject: Re: [iris] REB: HYB: rebloom breeding
There are quite a few. Just browse throw checklist. Yes some may occasionally rebloom in a zone 8 garden.Chuck Chapman-----Original Message-----From: Betty Wilkerson &lt;101n@rewrite.hort.net&gt;To: iris &lt;iris@hort.net&gt;Sent: Wed, Nov 26, 2014 1:30 pmSubject: Re: [iris] REB: HYB: rebloom breedingThis is yet another class of rebloom that I've not seen before. (or heard of) What are some of the CA rebloomers that never rebloom in other climates?ÂI've had Pure As Gold, October Sky, Lord of Rings and others bloom in my (one of the most difficult) garden during mild years. ÂMy understanding of "sporadic." Â&lt;&lt;The California rebloomers are not iris that rebloom in extended warm climates like California, but iris that rebloom ONLY in warm extended seasons such as California, and nowhere else.&gt;&gt;Betty WilkersonZone 6 KYautmirislvr@aol.com-----Original Message-----From: Chuck Chapman &lt;db4f61431@rewrite.hort.net&gt;To: iris &lt;iris@hort.net&gt;Sent: Wed, Nov 26, 2014 8:16 amSubject: Re: [iris] REB: HYB: rebloom breedingThe California rebloomers are not iris that rebloom in extended warm climates like California, but iris that rebloom ONLY in warm extended seasons such as California, and nowhere else.I haven't been saying that they wont get rebloomers. But that the California rebloomers will not add anything from their rebloom genes to the potential to rebloom in climates other then the warm climates like southern California.Chuck Chapman-----Original Message-----From: Linda Mann &lt;101l@rewrite.hort.net&gt;To: iris &lt;iris@hort.net&gt;Sent: Wed, Nov 26, 2014 3:30 amSubject: [iris] REB: HYB: rebloom breedingChuck, I'm curious - you've mentioned several times here and on FaceBook that several people have tried crossing 'California' (west coast,Oz) rebloomers with cold hardy rebloomers and with no success in gettingrebloom. I think that's what you've been saying, that the rebloomgenetics are different.But isn't that what most/all of Byers introduced rebloomers were? Andsome of us (Betty, me, Mary Lou) seem to be getting occasional 'summer'(early fall - August) rebloom from 'sporadic'/west coast rebloomers.Mary Lou has posted one on Face Book that's bloomed April, May, July,August and October. 10-511ARE: ((Tomorrow's Child x Feed Back) early REX Decadence). In Illinois (or maybe she's in Indiana - I get those two"I" states mixed up...)So I'm curious who those breeders were, what they tried to use and whatclimate they were in?Have you tried to grow any of Byers introductions? Seems like Iremember your posting some of them. Are any of them 'early'/summerbloomers in your climate? Have you made any crosses with them?The more I look at pedigrees of some of these things, the more baffled Iam. Lurking recessives? Doubled up gametes? Warmer temperaturetriggers that dont' get triggered wherever those folks you were talkingabout were growing their seedlings?Curious if you have any new thoughts about the warm weather/earlyrebloom genetics.Linda Manneast TN USA zone 7---------------------------------------------------------------------To sign-off this list, send email to majordomo@hort.net with themessage text UNSUBSCRIBE IRIS--------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off this list, send email to majordomo@hort.net with themessage text UNSUBSCRIBE IRIS--------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off this list, send email to majordomo@hort.net with themessage text UNSUBSCRIBE IRIS 




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