Re: oncos
- Subject: Re: [iris-talk] oncos
- From: B* R*
- Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 20:24:46 -0400
Dearest Sharon,
I use I. lycotis and I. urmiensis for the sake of brevity. If it makes ya happy, I can type I. barnumae ssp. barnumae f. urmiensis. For those of you who give a hoot, we're talking about the yellow form of I. barnumae. No other onco (and I'm quite sure Sharon will correct me if I'm wrong) looks quite like it.
These seed are from more recent travels to the middle east, not from earlier expeditions, straight from the notes in their most recent seed list. Here is Archibald's addy, I'm sure that they would love to send you (and anyone else) a list. Frankly, I'm suprised you don't get their list. Both Jim & Jenny have always been very candid and helpful with any questions I've asked of them. Hell, I'm even envious of the way they return my notes (wish I had prose like that). Please be advised that iris is just a small part of the seed they list. While not cheap, $9.00 for five I. meda seed, the Archibald name & number is your assurance of the real McCoy.
And once again, provenance isn't that big an issue to me as I'm not a breeder. Just because it doesn't look exactly like some obscure reference pic please don't get discouraged and chuck it on the compost heap. These populations vary from year to year depending on any number of conditions. If Jim Archibald says it's urmiensis, takes 2-3 years to germinate, and after another 2-3 years, gets a yellow flower on it, I'll die a happy man.
Please do try to grow these, believe me, they are a huge pain in the ***, pictures do NOT do them justice, however (and I'm sure that even Sharon will agree) the flower will absolutely knock your sox off.
Brian Radford
PS: The address (duh): Jim & Jenny Archibald,
'Bryn Collen'
Ffostrasol, Llandysul,
SA44 5SB
Wales, U.K.
----- Original Message -----
From: arilbredbreeder@cs.com
To: iris-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [iris-talk] oncos
In a message dated 10/25/01 8:35:55 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
brianr@modempool.com writes:
> My lycotis(Arch. 590.803), meda(Arch. 591.060), and urmiensis(Arch. 600.600
> hand pollenated from their 2000 collection) though probably not as
> distinguished as 'your' source, seem right since Jim & Jenny actually go to
> places like Iran to collect them.
So tell us more.
"My" sources are certainly not superior, but rather show that none of these
species survive from earlier collections with full documentation.
To complicate matters, I. lycotis and I. urmiensis are no longer recognized
as separate species in the Mathew System, which was adapted by the Aril
Society for its current classification system.
But I'm sure that many of our list members would like to hear more about the
Archibald's 2000 expedition -- so don't stop with a "teaser", go ahead and
give us the whole story!
Sharon McAllister
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