RE: Re: HYB: un-introduced seedlings
- Subject: RE: [iris-talk] Re: HYB: un-introduced seedlings
- From: D* B*
- Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 17:34:53 -0600
- Importance: Normal
I think one of the things Linda brings up here is the difference between a
seedling not good enough to introduce (compost iris) and a hybridzing
seedling. A hybridizing seedling has that hint of (fill in this space with
whatever you like in an iris) but is missing something else. Therefore you
keep, even share it in an attempt to lock in that elusive (blank spot
again). IMHO there is a world of difference between that and selling or
giving away compost iris. There are sooo many named iris that go wanting
for a good home anytime a grower digs his/her beds that it seems a shame to
pass out sub-standard iris.
Seeds are an entirely different matter. The worst cross, made for the most
unbelievable reason can produce a Dykes Medal winner with some really good
luck. Until you grow 'em there is no way of knowing where a seed rates.
Too many "bee pods" have produced beautiful babies.
Dana Brown
Malevil Gardens
Pres. South Plains Iris Society
AIS Region 17, MIS, ASI, RIS, TBIS
Lubbock, TX USA
Zone 7 USDA, Zone 10 Sunset
d*@llano.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Linda Mann [l*@volfirst.net]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 7:53 AM
To: iris-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [iris-talk] Re: HYB: un-introduced seedlings
>From what I've seen in pedigrees, I think hybridizers do swap pollen and
unintroduceable seedlings with one another now and then, and sometimes
even sell them as hybridizer's irises. These seem to be seedlings that
have some quality or other that is highly desirable and maybe hard to
acheive (recessive traits maybe?), but don't meet other criteria of
introduction (poor form, few buds, weak grower, etc). Also, I think I
have read of rejects being given to other hybridizers who saw traits
they wanted to introduce into their own lines.
Tom Parkhill, local hybridizer, has given me many of his seedlings and
introductions to 'torture' here, and most have not fared all that well
for me. The one that I like best and has been most reliable was one
that he discarded. Jim Ennenga (judge, ex RVP) saw blooming in my garden
and said should be introduced. Tom didn't consider it for reselect
because it is 'just another blue/purple' in a very crowded color class.
So now I've given it back to Tom to reconsider for introduction.
Then there are all those SIGNA seedlings....'thrown away' seedlings
before they even germinate. And seedlings that hybridizers don't bother
to introduce because they have so many 'better' ones in iris heaven
(Oregon) that might be as good as some the rest of us could ever hope to
produce.....
Always count on me for another perspective <g>
Linda Mann east Tennessee USA zone 7/8
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