Re: iris DIGEST V1 #343
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  • From: "r*@clas.net" <a*@rewrite.hort.net>
  • Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 16:16:57 -0500
Hi Linda I would be very interested in reading your list-do please send it.
Thanks Rose Kinnard
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Subject: [iris] iris DIGEST V1 #343
iris DIGEST Tuesday, October 21 2014 Volume 01 : Number 343 



In this issue:

       Re: [iris] HYB: stalk inheritance
       Re: [iris] HYB: flower form & stalk inheritance
       [iris] HYB: REB: rebloom report?
       Re: [iris] HYB: REB: rebloom report?

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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 10:10:34 -0400
From: Betty Wilkerson <101n@rewrite.hort.net>
Subject: Re: [iris] HYB: stalk inheritance

Don't judge too quick.  A few years ago, we were all seeking the triple
terminals?  I had several I was watching close.  Triple terminals for 2 +
years. Suddenly, the spring I planned the final selection and they all had 
double terminal with a spur about 2 inches down the stalk!  Go slow!


.
<<Branching  would be  another trait,>>>




Betty Wilkerson
Zone 6 KY
autmirislvr@aol.com




- -----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Chapman
<db4f61431@rewrite.hort.net>
To: iris <iris@hort.net>
Sent: Sun, Oct 19, 2014
10:30 am
Subject: Re: [iris] HYB: stalk inheritance

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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 10:21:30 -0400
From: Betty Wilkerson <101n@rewrite.hort.net>
Subject: Re: [iris] HYB: flower form & stalk inheritance
This has really surprised me, too. I think Lloyd predicted Matrix was a good breeder for increased rebloom. I've really liked many of the seedlings, but 
just not been able to get on the Matrix train.  Soft and gentle plicatas,
bunchy selfs, etc.  Wide ones often have short, stunted stalks.


<<Neither
parent has falls that
wide, tho both were nearly touching.>>

Maybe try
Matrix x Over and Over?


Betty Wilkerson
Zone 6 KY
autmirislvr@aol.com
- -----Original Message-----
From: Linda Mann <101l@rewrite.hort.net>
To: iris
<iris@hort.net>
Sent: Mon, Oct 20, 2014 8:02 am
Subject: Re: [iris] HYB:
flower form & stalk inheritance


I've been really surprised by the width
occasionally coming out of
Immortality as pod parent (overlapping falls on at
least one with (Final
Episode, Tea Leaves, Matrix) as pollen.  Neither parent
has falls that
wide, tho both were nearly touching.

I'm seeing many more
than I expected with nearly touching falls with Imm
as pod parent.  Actually,
I expected zero, so in this case, "many more"
is only a few so far ;-).

In
trying to predict what will 'shove' crosses in the direction I want,
it's
been really helpful to know the range of widths in all the aunts
and uncles,
great aunts and great uncles on both sides.  Almost
impossible to get that
information without growing my own lines.   It's
taken awhile, but gratifying
to finally be able to get there.

So from what you wrote, pretty much entirely
nuclear DNA for bloom
form/width, branch count and placement.  And 3 ft tall
leaves :-(

Possibly maternal for stalk chunkiness. And extrapolating, stalk
corkscrewing (sensitivity to weather effects) and multiple stalks coming
from
one fan (I'm seeing a lot of triple stalks this fall - first stalks
presumably more stressed by summer heat and drought more likely to be
triples
than later ones)

Unknown effect on branching - probably some of both? since
some
cultivars produce beautiful branching at home, turn into popsicles &
gladiolas elsewhere.  So I may have seedlings with genetics for good
branching combined with weather sensitivity that's not letting it be
expressed.

Thanks Chuck.  That is very helpful.

On 10/19/2014 6:18 PM, Chuck
Chapman wrote:

The maternal inheritance of  plastid and mitochondria

genetics basically

involves the plants energy systems of chlorophyll and ATP

production.

But control of these  rests with nuclear DNA for most part. So

how well

the potential of maternal  inheritance is able to perform is

partially

dependent on proper control signals from nucleus.

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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 14:48:11 -0400
From: Linda Mann <101l@rewrite.hort.net>
Subject: [iris] HYB: REB: rebloom report?

Anybody want to see the full list of all the seedlings that have fall
bloomed here this year?  I finally got it all summarized to email to
Mike Lockatell for the RIS, but I don't know if they will want to
publish the entire thing.

Linda Mann east TN USA zone 7

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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 10:24:12 -0400
From: Betty Wilkerson <101n@rewrite.hort.net>
Subject: Re: [iris] HYB: REB: rebloom report?

Don't have time to read it right now, BUT PLEASE do send it.


Betty
Wilkerson
Zone 6 KY
autmirislvr@aol.com




- -----Original Message-----
From:
Linda Mann <101l@rewrite.hort.net>
To: iris <iris@hort.net>
Sent: Mon, Oct 20,
2014 6:40 pm
Subject: [iris] HYB: REB: rebloom report?


Anybody want to see
the full list of all the seedlings that have fall
bloomed here this year?  I
finally got it all summarized to email to
Mike Lockatell for the RIS, but I
don't know if they will want to
publish the entire thing.

Linda Mann east TN
USA zone 7
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