Re: Re: REB:Rebloomers Revisited

>Sounds like its high time we have an article to clarify the issue.  
>I'll get working on that for the Fall Recorder.

Excellent.  As long as you'll be working on getting the RIS leadership to 
clarify their definitions, let's add these questions to the list:

If a rebloom stalk has to be protected (covered) from frost in the fall 
or even cut and brought inside to bloom, is that counted as rebloom?

If a cv blooms for me in the spring, and I send a chunk to a friend in 
another part of my zone that blooms for her in the fall of the same year, 
is that reportable as rebloom for our zone?

If a clump blooms in the spring, then I divide and replant parts of the 
clump during the summer, one or more of which go on to bloom again that 
same fall, is that reportable rebloom?
>
>>From what I understand, I would not count it as rebloom when the same 
>clump does not bloom twice in the same season.  (I'm thinking of 
>people that have 50 clumps of a variety, if any one of them bloomed 
>in the fall it would count even if that clumps hadn't bloomed in the 
>spring.)

Am I misreading this, or did you contradict yourself in the above quote?  
If mine does NOT count as rebloom because it did not occur in the same 
clump, why would someone else's count just because they're growing 50 
clumps?  

Which raises another question:  If a large hybridizer was growing 100 
clumps of the same seedling, and 50 of them bloomed in the spring while 
the *other* 50 bloomed that same fall, would they consider that seedling 
to be a rebloomer?  Do the large hybridizers mark each specific blooming 
clump in the spring so they can identify whether that exact clump in an 
entire row of clumps of the same cv has bloomed twice in the same season?

>It is true that when an iris is a new arrival it can not count as 
>rebloom.

I know that's the generally accepted rule, but has it ever actually been 
published as an RIS guideline? That's not specifically stated in the 
Judge's Handbook.

> As long as it is stated that it was planted that year, it 
>would not be included as rebloom for the purposes of the checklist.

Which touches on another of my peeves.  When I was a member of RIS, I 
would receive annual reporting forms with absolutely NO instructions or 
guidelines attached.  How is anyone supposed to know what is and isn't 
acceptable to report if the RIS provides no guidelines with its reporting 
forms?????

Every time this topic arises on the list, it quickly becomes clear that 
even among gardeners who have been growing rebloomers for many years and 
perhaps even reporting them to the RIS, there is no consistency in their 
definitions of what is and isn't reportable rebloom.  WHEN is the RIS 
going to establish and publish the boundaries of reportable rebloom?
>
>Of course there's always the question if a cv produces a very 
>marginal stalk on either the spring or fall bloom and is not in bloom 
>for twice the expected time due to low bud count, would we count it 
>then?  And then  what about the fall stalks with 25 buds that bloom 
>and bloom and bloom.

More good questions for the Powers That Be to address.  

Good luck!

Laurie


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normal annual precipitation 26-27"
slightly acid clay soil

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