RE: Idesia polycarpa

Apparently, it's a street tree in Japan. How well-behaved are the roots?
What are its water needs? I found a source up in Oregon, but they sell
liners in small quantities (Trans-Pacific) so a buyer would have to be very
patient.

http://www.worldplants.com/index.html

(The catalog is hilarious to read through, btw!)

Cheryl

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason D [j*@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 10:41 AM
> To: Cheryl Renshaw
> Subject: RE: Idesia polycarpa
>
>
> ...In the Asian section along the road descending from
> the parking lot at 10th Avenue. They're on the right
> side of the road, before you get to the
> bamboo-surrounded pond.
> Black berries have viable seed - yellow ones don't.
> It's a well-behaved tree in our chilly climate.
> -Jason
>
> --- Cheryl Renshaw <cheryl@wr-architect.com> wrote:
> > Hi Jason,
> >
> > Where are the Idesias in Strybing? I'll be up there
> > for the Medit. symposium
> > next month, and I'd like to check them out.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Cheryl
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-medit-plants@ucdavis.edu
> > > [o*@ucdavis.edu]On Behalf
> > Of Jason D
> > > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 10:14 AM
> > > To: theryans@xtra.co.nz; Mediterannean Plants List
> > > Subject: Re: Idesia polycarpa
> > >
> > >
> > > There are fruiting trees at Strybing Arboretum in
> > San
> > > Francisco. We sometimes sell seedlings at our
> > sales:
> > > www.strybing.org.
> > > -Jason
> > > SF
> > > --- Tony and Moira Ryan <theryans@xtra.co.nz>
> > wrote:
> > > > Irene Kuffel wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello all,
> > > > >
> > > > >    I was browsing through the new "Dirr's
> > Trees
> > > > and Shrubs for
> > > > >    Warm Climates" and came across this rather
> > > > intriguing-looking
> > > > >    tree, idesia polycarpa ("Igiri Tree").
> > > > >
> > > > >    It's from S.Japan, central/western China,
> > so
> > > > not mediterranean.
> > > > >    But, the description says it "Tolerates
> > heat,
> > > > drought, and
> > > > >    substandard soils" which _sounds_ like it
> > would
> > > > do well in
> > > > >    mediterranean regions.  It has attractive
> > > > leaves and bark,
> > > > >    and a fruiting tree looks quite a knock-out
> > > > covered with
> > > > >    panicles of red berries. Also, "Extremely
> > fast
> > > > growing as
> > > > >    a young tree. Easily grown from fresh
> > planted
> > > > seed."
> > > > >
> > > > >    Given all that, I find it curious that this
> > > > tree is not more
> > > > >    popular than it is - I have never
> > (knowingly)
> > > > seen this tree in
> > > > >    California. Have any of you any personal
> > > > experience with this
> > > > >    tree? Are there any downsides? Is the
> > "Easily
> > > > grown from ..."
> > > > >    sentence a warning that it is invasive?
> > Does
> > > > anyone know if
> > > > >    there any sources for this in California?
> > > > >
> > > > Irene
> > > > This is quite well known here where it is
> > usually
> > > > called the "Wonder
> > > > Tree". Apart from the berries it has very
> > hadsome
> > > > deciduous foliage
> > > > turning yellow before falling.
> > > >
> > > > Its distribution is limited by climate as it
> > does
> > > > not stand very heavy
> > > > frosts and is happiest in a temperate to warm
> > > > temperate climate.(Climate
> > > > zones 6-10)
> > > > An old, but still very authoritative, account
> > says "
> > > > An idea climate
> > > > resembling the native habitat  is one with
> > > > well-defined seasons, a hot
> > > > summer, dry autumn and reasonable freedom from
> > heavy
> > > > frosts (and strong
> > > > winds). I have seen them occasionally around my
> > home
> > > > area, but they are
> > > > not too often planted just here because of our
> > > > frequent gales.
> > > >
> > > > The main problem with heavy frosts or winds or
> > with
> > > > a lot of pruning is
> > > > that the trees if damaged are  very prone to
> > attack
> > > > by wound fungi or
> > > > bacteria.
> > > >
> > > > Although the account you quote suggests it is
> > > > tolerent of adverse soil
> > > > conditions  Botanica recommends "moderately
> > fertile
> > > > moist but
> > > > well-drained acid soils".
> > > >
> > > > The trees are dioecious, so to get berries you
> > will
> > > > need to accomodate
> > > > at least one male besides your female plant(s).
> > They
> > > > are usually here
> > > > sold in grafted pairs, but can also be grown
> > from
> > > > cuttings. (My very old
> > > > account gives a natty way of distinguishing the
> > sex
> > > > in young seed-grown
> > > > trees, if seed is all one can get).
> > > >
> > > > The berries are very handsome as they hang
> > through
> > > > winter on the bare
> > > > branches and birds do not touch them, so
> > provided
> > > > you cut off the old
> > > > bunches in spring before they finally fall they
> > are
> > > > unlkely to spread
> > > > around.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry I can't help with a Californian source.
> > > >
> > > > Moira
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Tony & Moira Ryan,
> > > > Wainuiomata, North Island, NZ.     Pictures of
> > our
> > > > garden at:-
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://mywebpages.comcast.net/cherie1/Garden/TonyandMoira/index.htm
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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