Re: in place of jasmine

Pelargonium tomentosum grows so monstrously large, I wouldn't recommend it 
unless it really has room to spread and won't overwhelm smaller things around 
it.  For dry shade I really like a couple of other South African plants such as 
Plectranthus neochilus, P. x 'Mona lavender', P. zuluensis, and Crassula 
multicava.  Each of these performs very well here in Berkeley/Oakland with just 
once a month summer irrigation.  Various of the Dianella species such as D. 
intermedia and D. tasmanica also do very well in even deep shade.'  Another of 
the newer Dianella introductions that I would recommend is Dianella revoluta 
'Baby Bliss' which is a dwarfer foliage plant with soft blue foliage. Another 
plant I like to use for dry shade, but not a ground cover, is Neomarica 
caerulea, which surprisingly has also done quite well with minimal summer water 
for me.  I also quite like various Carex species in drier shade such as Carex 
divulsa, C. morrowii 'Evergold', C. testacea and C. 'Sparkler'.   Acorus 
gramineus 'Ogon' is another useful dry shade plant ground cover.  Other 
relatively low water use plants for shade that I mass for color would include 
various hardy bromeliads such as Aechmea caudata, A. kertesziae, A.gamosepala, 
A. purpureorosea, A. nudicalis, and Neoregelia species such as N. compacta and 
N. 'Bossa Nova'.  All of these I locate in bright shade and provide them with 
overhead microspray irrigation for just a minute or two every couple of days; so 
they do get some irrigation frequently, but the amount being used is minimal.



----- Original Message ----
From: Pamela Steele <pamela.steele@re-taste.com>
To: Nan Sterman <TalkingPoints@plantsoup.com>; medit plants forum 
<medit-plants@ucdavis.edu>
Sent: Sun, August 22, 2010 1:16:58 AM
Subject: RE: in place of jasmine

Hi Nan

My suggestions are Potentilla fruiticosa ( white) other colours too
Geranium phaeum album. Plectranthus argentatus

Greetings from a very hot Costa Blanca after some serious summer storms!  My
garden is very happy!

Pamela


Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky,
We fell them down and turn them into paper,
That we may record our emptiness.
-   Kahlil Gibran


-----Original Message-----
From: Nan Sterman [T*@plantsoup.com]
Sent: 22 August 2010 06:16
To: medit plants forum
Subject: in place of jasmine


Anyone got a dry growing groundcover to suggest in place of Jasmine in
a courtyard with morning sun?  Pelargonium tomentosum comes to mind
for me ... can you suggest anything else?
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