Whaty about Elders that Italians make flutes /pea shooters from? Michael Bailes, The Fragrant Garden Portsmouth Road Erina. N.S.W. 2250 Australia. (OZ) Int fax 61 243 651979 Phone 61 243 677322 frgntgar@ozemail.com.au web page at: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~frgntgar/ Everyone has enough to do in weeding his own garden. Flemish