Re: from Spain to Oregon, the rain....

Both olives and bay grow in certain areas of Victoria - generally in gardens near the sea. My brother's olive bears fruit, and my father's bay tree is about 4m tall. It was killed back one horrendous winter (89/90, I think) when even native trees were badly damaged, but resprouted with vigour and has not been damaged since. A farm stand near me sells branches of bay - much prettier than a bag of dried leaves, though one could never use all the leaves before they dried.

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Diane Whitehead Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
maritime zone 8
cool mediterranean climate (dry summer, rainy winter - 68 cm annually)
sandy soil

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