Re: Poppy Concoctions


>sazci wrote:
>>P. orientale is used in the trade when P. somniferum is unavailable.
>
>The drug trade, or the garden trade?

The (legal) pharmaceutical drug industry.

>and Sean wrote:
>>'garden variety' of P. somniferum does not actually yeild a usable
>>form of the narcotic, nor is it very easy to extract in any case (you
>>can't really just grind up the plant or squeese the 'juice' - it is
>>far more complicated than that.  

This is DEA propaganda to discourage people from doing it.  All you have 
to do is grind the pods, pour boiling water over them and steep.  Lots 
of opium is manufactured by solvent extraction (not water), and I read 
that a single pod, extracted with pure alcohol, yields the equivalent of 
a hit of heroin.  This is the reason that owning any part of the plant 
is illegal.  

>I haven't tried it, but I notice even one small
>overwintered pod makes him pretty loopy.  (He was using it for pain 
>from a tooth abscess.)

There ya go.  I tried it once, I admit.  Made a migraine go away in a 
half hour.  Also made me feel pretty loopy, in the same unpleasant (to 
me) way that codeine does.  Beats a migraine but not something one wants 
to get too accustomed to; the tea can be addicting just like any other 
opiate.


>Barry_Garcia wrote: 
>>I was looking at a packet of california poppies (E. californica) and 
it
>>says "DO NOT USE FOR FEED". Are those seeds poisonous?

The indians did smoke the leaves for a mild buzz, but I have a feeling 
this warning was probably because of fungicides or something they had 
put on the seed.  After all, I would imagine cows in California get 
plenty of opportunities to much E. californica, and either choose not to 
or do and are unharmed.

bob

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