RE: Biblical garden---paliurus spina christi

I remember clearly a similiar discussion about the use of terms
deemed offensive on this list regarding a certain "plum" from South Africa

All said and done this is a VERY international list and terms such as these,
as well as common names of plants, mean different things to different
people.

I'm quite sure no offense was intended and none really should be taken.
I like to think we are all friends here and can cut each other a little
slack every now and then in the spirit of this group

On the mention of PALIURIS SPINA CHRISTI,  is this right Trevor?
I always thought the crown of thorns was made from Ziziphus spina-christi
Both are in the Rhamnaceae....  and I sure as heck wouldn't want to try on
any headwear made out of that tree.

rod

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> ----------
> From: 	rachel
> Reply To: 	Rachel@haasjr.org
> Sent: 	Friday, 12 February 1999 4:09 AM
> To: 	'medit-plants@ucdavis.edu'; tnottle@picknowl.com.au
> Subject: 	Re: Biblical garden---paliurus spina christi
> 
> At the risk of incurring others' displeasure I would like to register 
> some distaste for the description of Paliurus Spina Cristi seed pods 
> as Chinese "coolee" shaped.  
> 
> First, I cannot imagine what that would mean. Second, "coolie" is a 
> rather derogatory historical term applied to Asian workers, mostly
> Chinese, in 
> the U.S.  I, personally, don't feel comfortable using 
> the term, but perhaps it does not have the same connotations in other 
> countries.
> 
> I don't mean to attack the person who used it, but simply to question 
> whether it's a descriptor we want to keep in currency in this day and 
> age.     
> 
> Rachel Baker
> Berkeley, Ca.
>  								Brad Belles 
> > Dear Brad,
> > 
> > Without doubt you need PALIURIS SPINA CHRISTI, which should be 
> > self-expalnatory to almost any person of the Christian faith. 
> It is a semi-deciduous shrub, not 
> > particularly distinguished bit for its curious Chinese 'coolee' 
> > shaped seed pods and its thin hooked spines.
> > regards
> > 
>
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