Harpephyllum xxx was RE: Kaxxir/Natal Plum
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- Subject: Harpephyllum xxx was RE: Kaxxir/Natal Plum
- From: K* H*
- Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 08:22:59 -0800
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I agree that Natal Plum is not acceptible for Harpephyllum it certainly
means
Carrisa macrocarpa or C. grandiflora -- I guess we'll just have to use
Harpephyllum
until some group of people are offended by the possible allusion to Harpies.
I'm very fortunate that my wife is not reading this message......
Nevertheless, Harpephyllum xxx is easy to grow from seed and even saplings
will survive all but the coldest winters in zone 15. I'll have to try some
again.
Karl Hoover
North Sunnyvale, California zone, 15/17 border
Berryessa Foothills, San Jose, California, zone 16
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-medit-plants@ucdavis.edu
[o*@ucdavis.edu]On Behalf Of William Glover
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 8:50 AM
To: valhalla@iafrica.com; medit-plants
Subject: Kaffir/Natal Plum
On 1/10/01 1:51 AM Glenn Breayley (valhalla@iafrica.com) wrote:
>>One handsome African tree that does very well here and fruits abundantly,
>>as long as there are both male and female trees since it is dioecious, is
>>Harpephyllum caffrum, the South African 'Kaffir Plum'. Is this grown at
>>all in California and other Medit climates?
>>
>>
>>William Glover
>Naughty, naughty............ Definitely not politically correct anymore.
Now
>called the Natal Plum. For South Africans that is as bad as Americans using
>the N word.
Cannot another name be suggested for Harpephyllum caffrum as 'Natal Plum'
has long been the common name in Anglophone countries for Carissa
grandiflora, another native - if this is not now a perjorative word -
South African plant.
Interestingly enough, a homesick South African is building a very large,
very expensive, and highly visible house on this island in Dutch
Afrikaaner style that is rapidly becoming known as 'Apartheid House'.