RE: REPLACEMENT FOR RUBUS PENTALOBUS

I think I would give Salvia sonomensis a try.  It spreads vigorously and
likes the drainage of a slope.  Whatever you plant there, I would wait until
fall to replace it.
Karrie

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-medit-plants@ucdavis.edu [o*@ucdavis.edu]
On Behalf Of Catherine Ratner
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 7:24 PM
To: medit-plants@ucdavis.edu
Subject: Re: REPLACEMENT FOR RUBUS PENTALOBUS

Hi Sylvia,

You could try Salvia "Mrs. Beard", or for prettier flowers S. Bee's  
Bliss, also Salvia clevelandii (delicious scent) Winifred Gilman or  
other clevelandii hybrids.  How about Rhus ovata?

Cathy
On Jun 21, 2008, at 3:49 PM, Sylvia Sykora wrote:

> I've watched all week as a two-year old planting of this Rubus  -  
> which
> looks wonderful all winter and in early spring - has turned up its  
> toes in
> the face of heat and brutal Western sun.  Several of the now 4' x  
> 4' plants
> are completely brown, and while they may survive at the roots,  
> clearly this
> shade lover was not the right plant for the site.
>
> Can anyone suggest a similarly low, green spreading groundcover  
> (erosion
> control)  for a west-facing slope - brutally hot and dry in summer  
> - which
> ultimately will have to survive on winter rains alone?   It will  
> need to
> suit the rest of the slope plantings of  rhamnus, toyon, manzanita,
> carpenteria, and arbutus, all of which look good in this, their  
> first summer
> without supplemental watering.
>
> I'd like to keep the look and feel of the planting one of a naturally
> "un-gardened" and slightly wild area.
>
> I'll be grateful for whatever suggestions any one may have.  I'm  
> stumped.
>
> Sylvia Sykora
> Oakland, CA
> USDA Zone 9
> Sunset Zone 16
>
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