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Re: Lavender sources in Europe

>Do any of these have allardii?     yes
>Certainly Norfolk doesn't.           ah, sure?
>Is it an Australian hybrid?         no

Probably most of them do have L. x allardii. We grow 4 different forms of
it, not for the catalogue but for our own interest (bio in some cases). We
are the official Dutch national collection holders for Lavandula. Our
allardii's:
L. x allardii
L. x allardii with slightly darker flowers
L. x heterophylla same cross less showy leaves are less cut only slightly
at the base
L. 'Devantville' probably the same as above, from France

In fact L. x allardii is a group of mainly unnamed cultivars. They are a
cross between L. dentata x latifolia. The cross was first recorded in
Europe as L. x heterophylla in 1802 in Italy and in France 1804 and 1894.
And as L. x allardii in 1890 in France (Mauleverie near Angers). they were
all found as spontanous garden hybrids. Wich of these cultivars  are still
alive today is not clear. They do exist as herbarium specimens. There are
severall cultivars in the trade today that show resemblance to the
herbarium specimen. Differences among them are often not very obvious.

Susyn Andrews at Kew is investigating the allardii complex. She urges the
trade to suggest cultivar names because it is confusing and messy  when
different plants are grown under the same name. The Australian growers
present on the lavender study day at Whisley last summer did suggest the
name L. 'Vergelegen' for the most widespread L. x allardii and 'Majella'
for L. x heterophylla.

'Goodwin Creek Gray' is a very distinct cultivar, very gray foilage and
compacter growth.


Michael, I have received many of your personal messages. the adres is
correct, don't understand why they end up in myt mail box.

These are the messages, I have send them all back to you so that you can
check if the adressed did receive their copy as well.


>>Alessandra, you asked some time ago about European sources for rare
>>lavenders. Sorry I didn't answer earlier, I'm quite busy at this period of
>>the year.
>>

>>2)Dr. S. J. Charlesworth, Downderry Nursery, 649 London Road, Ditton,
>>Aylesford, Kent, ME20 6DJ

Simon has different forms among wich 'Goodwin Creek Gray' and  L. x
heterophylla.

>>4) John Head, 6 Church Gate, Clipston-on-the-Wolds, Keyworth, Nottingham,
>>NG12 5PA

Joan does at lest have one form but is not a nursery. She does however
publish a Lavender newsletter: "the Lavender Bag"


>>In Holland, try Kruidenkwekerij, email : bastinkk@cuci.nl, good catalogue
>>(thank you Olivier)

We also have a homepage that contains a listing of our national collections
see below in sig file.

>>In France, well, there's my little botanical nursery...mail order only to
>>southern Europe, best time to order is not now, but in september or
>>october. If you can come and visit our lavender garden in june or july.
>>
>>Olivier

>
>
>Michael Bailes.
>The Fragrant Garden, Portsmouth Road, Erina. N.S.W. 2250 Australia. (OZ)
> Int fax 61 243 651979  Phone 61 243 677322
> EMAIL: frgntgar@ozemail.com.au
>  Web page at: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~frgntgar/


Roger Bastin,


               Kruidenkwekerij, V.O.F. Roger & Linda Bastin
          Herbs, fragrant plants and uncommon plants nursery

                            http://www.cuci.nl/~bastinkk/

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