Re: Echium Problems
- Subject: Re: Echium Problems
- From: Catherine Ratner c*@earthlink.net
- Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 20:06:29 -0700
After reading other people's messages about Echiums, I am thinking that
problems with rot and fasciation are due to too much water. If it's your
climate, you can't help it. I don't think the plants like or require water
in summer. I live in southern coastal L.A. and never have those problems.
Cathy
> From: Andrew Mariani <andimar@mindspring.com>
> Reply-To: andimar@mindspring.com
> Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 11:35:20 -0700
> To: "medit-plants@ucdavis.edu" <medit-plants@ucdavis.edu>
> Subject: Echium Problems
>
> I cultivate several species of Echium in my garden, including E.
> candicans (E. fastuosum), E. handiensis, E. pininana, E. wildpretii, and
> what appears to be hybrids between the two latter species. From a
> strictly design standpoint, I find them fascinating plants with
> stunning colors and striking sculptural quality. The towering forms are
> dramatically statuesque, like the spires of Gaudi's unfinished
> cathedral in Barcelona, and the rambling branched forms are a source of
> intense winter color displaying an iridescent pallette of analogous
> shades/tints of blue, purple and mauve.
>
> An earlier post, either here or elsewhere, made whimsical reference to a
> "Dr. Suess's Garden" and requested suggestions of some weird and
> wonderful plant forms that might qualify. I certainly would submit the
> 'Tower of Jewels' as being right at home with the equally bizzarre
> Truffula trees in Dr. Seuss's imaginary, Lorax-tended garden.
>
> They are excellent landscape elements but so very difficult to manage,
> probably better suited to more flexible but less tidy landscapes than
> the well-kept Mediterranean garden. Consider the biennial types. In
> their second season, they form spectacular, blooming towers, briefly
> becoming majestic landmarks, but then die off, only to resurrect
> themselves elsewhere, two years later, in the wrong spot. My latest
> frustration is a E. pininana/E wildpretii hybrid, a magificent
> specimen, 14 feet tall and counting, that decided to establish itself
> within the dripline of my Eucalyptus torquata, and the two plants appear
> to pushing and shoving each other, vying or attention.
>
> Echiums in general are also very prone to crown and root rots. This
> year one of my E. wildpretti began to bloom beautifully, then
> unespectedly gave up the ghost thereby negating two years of cultivation
> and anticipation...then there's also the problem of disposing of the
> hefty, tree-like biomass. Both E. wildpretti and E. pininana are also
> very susceptible to what I suspect is fasciation. As the basal clump of
> foliage begins its ascent, it suddenly "morphs" into something
> resembling a shepard's crook, blooming only on the outer curve like that
> of a gigantic fiddleneck plant. Again, one must wait until the second
> year before this disfiguring problem appears, and as many as a third of
> my plants are effected. The flower stalks of E. candicans rarely
> fasciate, but these older ramblers will often die off in one spot while
> developing new branches in another, and the general visual effect is
> often that of a scruffy, unkept shrub. Echiums are simply not for
> gardeners who crave orderliness.
>
> As unpredictable as they are, echiums, I believe, remain a genus of
> great landscape value. But are there others who also seen them as a
> source of great frustration? Have others in the group had similar
> problems and experiences with echiums?
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> An excellent landscape element i and image of a na Less tidy garden
> landscape scene imaginary, as sthe naural habitat of the mythical lorax
> than a well-kept Mediterranean garden. Bizzare landsxcapes
> Images of
> How does one contend with what amounts to stately landmarks that roam
> your garden from year to to year My Shepard's crook or flowering like
> a monstruous fiddleneck, Fasciation. A pallette of ananlogous
> colors. Moavi Unpredictable buggers that they are.. Stunning colors
> and striking sculptural quality. Frustrating for those gardeners who
> craved ordliness.
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