I was at a winery in gilroy last year and they trained a grapevine over a pergola. It was amazing, and the grape vine even had fruit hanging down. They even cut a hole in the wall so that a branch of thje grape vine could stick through it. (the wall was not attached to a building, it was surrounding the house for privacy) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------- "ang sinomang hindi marunong lumingon sa kanyang pinanggalingan ay hindi makararating sa kanyang paroroonan" -Tagalog Proverb- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------