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Fw: Emailing: 8-21-09 004

They can get a 4' + trunk on em here and I had one that i hadn't pruned (they rebloom on fresh growth several times a season) that got 12' tall. We had a pink one out front that kept getting to tall so we docked it to 4'...it struggled on but we had cut to severe and it finally died. they can seed them selves here and grow fast....so the state ag asked the nurseries to stop selling them, i still see starts often. i need to prune them now if we want one more round of blooms, but the orange one just blooms once. the yellows I have seen bloom once late. 
Dee
----- Original Message ----- From: <Jeaa0088@aol.com> 
To: <perennials@hort.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: Emailing: 8-21-09 004



Dee...you have to cut your Buddleias with a chain saw? I'd love to see a
picture of one of those babies! They're not considered thugs in the Chicago area but rather welcome plants. I guess our cold winters keep them in check. I'm wondering if moving them does cause them pain...I learned the hard way 
with  Asclepias 'Hello Yellow' and Macleaya that they resent the heck out
of it, Asclepias having a long tap root...have not learned why the demise of 
the  Macleaya which I know can be a thug but I have it in an island
bed...one  little step out of bounds and it's mowed to the ground.

Joanie Anderson
35 mi. north of Chicago
zone 5a


In a message dated 8/29/2009 2:10:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
maujean@comcast.net writes:

Jean
Here in Oregon where Buddleias are on the noxiuos weed list  I have never
tried to move one. If we don't want it there we just start a  new one and
chainsaw the old one .....They don't seem to mind transplant  up to the 5
gal.pot size.  I have a orange globe one that blooms in  the spring who
didn't like the cold winter and suffered greatly but it seems it will make 
it. It seems to attract the usual suspects.
Dee in  Eugene, OR.
----- Original Message ----- From: <Jeaa0088@aol.com> 
To: <perennials@hort.net>
Sent: Saturday,  August 29, 2009 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: Emailing: 8-21-09  004



I lost 3 Buddleias over the winter which were transplanted  from another
area. Do they resent being moved? I can't recall which  cultivars they

were

but
none were yellow. Nanho Blue rings a  bell. Smaller than the large ones

and

a  medium blue. Has anyone  tried the multi-colored one - yellows and
pinks?
I   wonder if they attract as many butterflies as the blue ones do? It's

so

hard  buying new plants which are within a zone or two of  our
gardens...seems it's  often worth a try but then it's so sad  when they
don't return.


Joanie   Anderson
35 mi. north of Chicago
 z.5a




In a message dated 8/29/2009  11:25:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
cherylisaak@comcast.net  writes:

The best  I've managed in overwintering a gaura -  is over one very
mild  winter.  I've been told lots of snow  cover helps, but I don't
believe  that any more.  I'll take  any's tricks to make them last more
than a   season.

I find hardiness a strange thing. The yellow buddleia  I got as  a gift
plant was supposedly a zone 6 tops for  hardiness, but it comes back
every year. The supposedly zone 4 hardy  ones have died - despite
being  mere yards way.

 Stay safe from the hail.

Chery (the   waterlogged)


Here in Georgetown, we've had 2 bad hailstorms  and one  really bad wind

storm.

I'm surprised anything  is still standing. Things  may be a bit tattered
but
they're looking not bad, considering. Hostas   here are all really happy

if

a

bit   ragged.



I do have a question  about Gauras -  love them but in spite of what

anyone

 says

they die each winter. Have  tried several varieties in  several locations
so
I've decided to treat  them  as an annual.

A friend has told me that the white ones  are  much hardier. Has anyone

had

any

experience with  them? and which  ones?



Lil  T.

Georgetown  ON

Zone  5


 From:   Jeaa0088@aol.com
 Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:22:17   -0400
 Subject: Re: Emailing: 8-21-09  004
  To:  perennials@hort.net

 Hi, Chris, Nancy  and  gang:

 I'm north of Chicago  about 35 miles and  we've had a lot of rain and

not  a

 lot of sustained hot  weather this summer so the  garden looks like it

did in

  June...except  for some areas of fungus (daylily 'Happy Returns' had

to

 be

 cut to the ground a month   ago).

 Hosta went berserk this summer  with 'Gold  Standard' leading the way
 and
 even 'Fire and Ice' doing a  respectable job;  variegated Liriope

muscari is

 looking its   smartest; Brunnera 'Jack Frost' has had no signs of late

 summer

 browning or speckling; Epidemiums are super  happy  (Gene Bush's

babies!);

 Geranium  'Rozanne' is still going  strong (also Gene's); all lilies

did

 very

 well; variegated  Hemerocallis 'Golden Zebra'  put on good growth and

still is

  in bloom;  newer lilacs suffered mightily (our heavy clay held onto

all

 that

 rain) and '08 transplanted Buddleias died but  baby  Macleaya held on

and,

 oddly, the  Baptisia did not bloom but  have magnificent seed  pods.

 The Japanese beetles  were  here in smaller numbers from mid-July to
 mid-August  and  did their usual to the roses (but 'Jacqueline du

Pre's'

 aroma

was

 outstanding!) and Weigela but the  tomatoes  are spectacular if late.

  All in all, a pretty  satisfying year and the garden still looks

fresh

and

 lovely.  Mother Nature's rain  cannot be
 duplicated with a garden   hose.

 How did everyone else's  garden  fare?

 Joanie  Anderson
 35 mi.  north of   Chicago










   In a message dated 8/26/2009 12:40:39 P.M. Central Daylight   Time,
 lindsey@mallorn.com   writes:

 > Sorry about the attachment.  I  finally thought of the

name.....Arundo

   donax
 > var. versicolor. I like it in the meadow  because  it gets me height

out
> there. Great place for the critters to hide from predators. It also 
 in

 > great in  large flower  designs.

 Well, that settles that!  A  short thread, but I'm glad to see traffic
 on
 the list.   :)

 How is everyone doing out there? What  can I  do to get people talking
   again?

 Here in Urbana, IL it feels like  fall  already. Asters aren't quite
  blooming
 yet,  but the temperatures are low, that  fall smell is starting to

appear,

 and the  crickets are chirping  away!

 Some  of my new favorite plants are getting  ready to bloom, too.

Allium

 thunbergii 'Ozawa' is an  *awesome* plant  and I keep trying to get
more.
  Although  Kalimeris integrifolia and Kalimeris incisa 'Blue Star'

have

  already been blooming for a few weeks,  Kalimeris yomena 'Shogun'
still
 hasn't  opened (but it's close!) The asters (like  'Raydon's

Favorite')

 are also starting to swell, but there's   no color yet! I saw that the
 various turtleheads  (Chelone)  are also open now.

   Chris

 http://www.hort.net/gallery/ 4383  online  plant photos and growing!

 >   http://www.hort.net/gallery/date/2009-08-10/ The latest   additions


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