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Re: Help with Lupines

My soil is alkaline, 6.5, and my Lupins thrive. Ward-Lock Gardening Encycl.
insist they hate alkaline soils. Reader's Digest Creative Gardening
recommend them for nuetral to acid soils only, but there you are ! Suspect
that they dislike getting dried out .... here in the west of Ireland we
have continual, if not continuous ! rain. As most acid soil is moisture
retentive, and tends to occur in high rainfall areas, could this be the
connection ?
Do persist ... I adore the way lupins positively glow in the twilight ... 
something to do with the colours perhaps ?
Mark

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> From: Donna Wilson <donnaw@axionet.com>
> To: perennials@mallorn.com
> Subject: Re: Help with Lupines
> Date: 10 August 1997 23:04
> 
> Not an expert by any means.  Grown lupins for 3 years.  The book (looking
at
> Damrosch's Garden Primer which was handy) says they like moist acidic
rich
> soil with lots of organic matter. 
> In my experience you can cheat on the richness of the soil but not the
> acidic part or the moisture.  And mine -- Russel hybrids -- do way better
in
> part shade than full mid-day sun.  I've had plants that didn't flower
very
> well -- if at all -- the first year but come back in full glory in year
two.
> They also don't last very long here but self sow like crazy.  Try at
least
> once more!  They are wonderful.  Good luck.  Regards, Donna. (Zone 5+)   
 
> 
> At 10:27 AM 10 08 97 -0500, you wrote:
> >So the motto is never give up until you've killed something 3 times?
> >Hmmmm . . . .I'm on my last chance with my Russell Hybrid Lupines
> >(Lupinus Polyphyllus).
> >
> >I planted them last fall and they made it through a mild (for our area)
> >winter just fine.  The plants came up well in the spring - better than
> >any other attempts thus far.  They are in 3/4 Sun, in our standard
> >(mostly clay) soil with mulch added yearly and on the side of a slight
> >slope that drains well.  I got ONE flower in June and the plants
> >shriveled and browned away . . . . en masse.
> >
> >Is this one of those flowers I will simply be unable to grow?  Thanks in
> >advance for any help you can give me.
> >
> >Lena
> >Lena36@juno.com
> >Zone 5 (Southeastern Wisconsin - 20 miles from Lake Michigan)
> >
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