Re: hellebore site/ erythronium

Hello Bill,
    I did a check on Hellebores - Graham Rice's hellebores web site this morning
and all is well at the address I am using. Perhaps the site was down for
maintenance at the time you attempted to take a look? Graham would have to answer
that one... anyway, try once more at http://www.hellebore.com/
    You should not be having problems with Erythroniums unless the pips your are
purchasing are dried out husks. I have receive a few of those in the past, but not
for some years now. Best time to plant in  late summer, early winter, but hat
means the supplier has to do his homework and keep the bulbs from drying out until
you get them. They could be planted late winter, but you will need to get them
before they awaken. The root is very fragile on these and breaks easily.
    Not all erythronium are created equal... some are quite demanding in site
location, but others are almost impossible to kill. Our two locals are easy and
grow in a very wide range of soils. Leaf mold in pockets between rocks they like
best, but will grow in hard clay. They are easy form fresh seed, but take some
time before bloom... usually around 5 years. They easily form colonies where they
are happy. Seeds will give you numerous immature leaves, older plants will be in
bloom. I use Mitchella repens, Partridgeberry,  as a ground cover for the bare
spot they will leave around July. Another underused native......
   Gene Bush     Southern Indiana    Zone 6a     Munchkin Nursery
          around the woods - around the world
genebush@otherside.com     http://www.munchkinnursery.com
From: <Blee811@aol.com>
Subject: Re: hellebore site


> In a message dated 2/8/01 9:46:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> genebush@otherside.com writes:
>
> <<  I see where someone else has sent a different address to access Graham's
> site
>  on hellebores. Did it work for you? I have not had the time to go back and
> see if
>  I could access the site from my favorites folder.
> ===>I posted a message about this.  The other site was wonderful, but it
> wasn't Graham Rice's.
>
>      You mention Erythroniums. I have carried those in the past and receive
> almost
>  no reaction to them. Finally gave up on all but the two natives for nursery
>  inventory. I now have them in my own garden and I, too, am very fond of every
>  species and hybrid out there. Won't e long before they are up and in bloom
> There
>  are some very lovely colors available, especially in the dens-canis hybrids.
> Also
>  some that are quite large, have multiple blooms per stem. Then there are the
> tiny
>  ones only 3 or 4 inches in height. Lovely late winter blooming plants. Shame
> more
>  are not aware of them. >>
> ===>I love erythroniums, Gene.  I have in the past bought some I don't have,
> but they haven't survived--I suspect like Galanthus and Eranthis, they are
> better transplanted in leaf, than as bulbs.  But except in England, I don't
> know where to buy them like this.  My woods is full of the native one, in
> varying shades from almost white to pink and light violet, and varying
> degrees of mottling on the leaves, and I have yellow onces, although they're
> scarcer.  I don't know what they are for sure, but doubt they're 'Pagoda'.
> Bill Lee
>
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