Re: Hydrangea

Marilyn, one can never have any hydrangeas if one has deer!
Merri Morgan
Zone 5b, WV
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marilyn Dube" <mygarden@easystreet.com>
To: <perennials@hort.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 1:27 PM
Subject: RE: Hydrangea


>
> Claire, Ceres, Marge & Doug,
> Do any of you grow any of the Hydrangea serratias?  They tend to be
> smaller, most with lacecap flowers and often change color as the flowers
> age.  My favorite is 'Preziosa'.  About 4'x4' with small serrated leaves,
> pink mophead flowers (do not turn blue in acidic soil) that turn ruby red
as
> they age and then to top it off - burgundy leaf color in fall.  Nice in a
> container too.  One can never have too many Hydrangeas!  (especially if
you
> have a lot of shade)
>
> Marilyn Dube'
> Natural Designs Nursery
> Portland, Oregon
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-perennials@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
Behalf
> Of ECPep@aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:57 AM
> To: perennials@hort.net
> Subject: Re: Hydrangea
>
> In a message dated 1/14/03 9:05:15 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> flowers@simplegiftsfarm.com writes:
>
>
> Ceres - seems to be different. Hydrangea macrophylla  'All Summer Beauty'
> is listed as zone 5 by Monrovia Nursery while the 'Bailmer' is listed as
> zone 4 although there may be other sources out there that disagree with
> ASB's zone rating as 5.  'Bailmer' is taller and wider.  As far as I can
> figure out from the net - 'ASB' mostly blooms on new wood and there is a
> recommendation on at least one site to cut it to the ground every
> fall.  'Bailmer' blooms on both new and old wood.  Again, this is from a
> brief survey and not talking to any experienced woody guy.
>
> Both are essentially pink but will go blue in acidic soils where they can
> take up all the aluminum the plant requires to go blue.  Both are supposed
> to have large blooms.
>
> Having said all that - I haven't grown either yet so will have to wait and
> see what the garden produces.
>
> Doug and Ceres,
>
> I thought this a good question from Ceres, I love Hydrangeas.
>
> Those classified loosely as big leaf Hydrangeas are under a study
somewhere
> in North Carolina.  Maybe the Raulston garden, he would have like this
kind
> of study.  I have it in a journal somewhere.
>
> Went and looked for the journal, it is NMPRO, a nursery magazine.  Study
is
> sponsored by Bailey Nurseries.  The issue is November, 2002.  They are
> looking at big leaf Hydrangeas that will send up new wood with flower
buds.
>
> 'All Summer Beauty' will not have enough time to make new wood that
flowers
> in zone 4 so Doug's trial plant should be of great interest.  I would
think
> they would trial new introductions somewhere where it is cold before
> marketing with rebloom claims.  In the article are many named cultivars
and
> it seems the bloom achieved in the North is from a second flush of stems
> after those of the preceding fall are frozen stiff here.
>
> For you guys who can grow big leaf Hydrangeas (any species) those of us in
> the North are confined to H. paniculata and selections of this species.
> There are quite a few now, mostly of Dutch origin.  Some are quite
beautiful
> and one is supposed to be pink though it really is not pink.  They are all
> white but the forms are quite good (flowers) and the selected shrubs are
all
> superior to H. paniculata, species form.
>
> Anybody who succeeds in short season area with a big leaf Hydrangea,
please
> tell us.
>
> Claire Peplowski
> NYS z4
>
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