RE: staking the tall ones / withes

I have dozens and dozens of clematis and roses and I wouldn't say I have experienced this.  If I don't give them enough climbing room, they continue to grow and just flop all over.  At least in Oregon, they grow with or without a structure.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Isabelle Hayes [b*@catskill.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 5:36 AM
> To: perennials@hort.net
> Subject: Re: staking the tall ones / withes
> 
> 
> Alyce (and thank you very much for all the information) mentions
> something I have noticed:
> 
> Alyce Elliott wrote:
> >snip 
> > 1.  I have a few of my clematis growing on 4 x 4 posts.  
> This year they got
> > to stretch up a bit because I looped and stapled poplar 
> withes over the
> > poles, four withes each pole.  No two withe structures look 
> exactly the
> > same, but all bear similarity to old-fashioned rug-beaters! 
>  The clematis
> > love it and even seem to grow faster, though that could be 
> my imagination.
> 
> Does everyone agree that when you give a rose, a clematis, etc.
> something to lean or climb on, they grow much faster and abundantly?
> 
> Isabelle Hayes
> 
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