my knautica is growinf on a south facing slope next to my house. it is shaded for most of the morning and early afternoon. after 2 pm it gets full sun-soil is dry and lose- it self sows and so i have fifty or so small plants in the grass next to the border. great plant but a spraler. Paul MN zone 4 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off this list, send email to majordomo@mallorn.com with the message text UNSUBSCRIBE PERENNIALS