RE: Centaurea, Cephalaria, and Who-Knows-What


Hi Don,  Just read this message and I looked at the photos.  My Cephalaria
gigantea flower is definitely like photo #2.  I do not recognize photo #1.
I think what you have described as very finely divided foliage, 3 ft. tall
and with the creamy yellow scabiosa flower is Scabiosa ochroleuca rather
than Cephalaria gigantea.  The 2 have identical flowers, but the foliage and
the height are very different.  The Cephalaria foliage is large and coarsely
divided and the plant in bloom is 6-8'.  I hope this helps.
Marilyn Dube'
Natural Design Plants
Hardy Perennials, Choice Tropicals
Portland, OR   Zone 8b

-----Original Message-----
From:	owner-perennials@mallorn.com [owner-perennials@mallorn.com] On
Behalf Of Don Martinson
Sent:	Friday, July 23, 1999 8:35 AM
To:	perennials@mallorn.com
Subject:	Centaurea, Cephalaria, and Who-Knows-What

>Hi Susan,    I am wondering if the above listed Centaurea gigantea could be
>Cephalaria gigantea.

Marilyn,

Well, now I'm confused (at least more than normal).  I have blooming in my
yard, a plant that I had labeled Cephalaria gigantea.  Photo at:
http://www.execpc.com/~llmen/unk4.jpg

However, from your description, C. gigantea is the following plant:
http://www.execpc.com/~llmen/cephgig.jpg   (foliage very finely divided, my
plant ~3ft tall)

So what is the first one?  The flowers are like Doronicum (which I know is
isn't) or Inula.

I still don't have an ID on the following from earlier in the week:
http://www.execpc.com~llmen/unk2.jpg

Any good ID experts out there?

Don

Don Martinson
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin (Milwaukee suburb)
USDA Zone 5 (-10 to -20F)
AHS Heat Zone #4,  Map at:
(  http://www.suite101.com/userfiles/79/hz1024.jpg )

l*@execpc.com




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